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The same nine streaming subscriptions cost $702/year more than in 2021

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Re: The same nine streaming subscriptions cost $702/year more than in 2021

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What is the alternative to subscribing to streaming services? Can you purchase your movies online and be guaranteed to have access to the movies in the future?

Libraries! They often have digital access to various services—e.g. Kanopy—but also often have lots of physical media sources! It involves a little more planning and a little less algorithm, and there are shows and movies that won't ever be available—e.g. things from Netflix, Apple—but there's enough out there already.

Re: The same nine streaming subscriptions cost $702/year more than in 2021

#42
post #5

Bring back DVD rentals! In the US, you don't even need to pay a licensing fee when you buy a DVD with intent to rent it out to people (this is not the case in the UK), thanks to the "First-sale doctrine" - Bobbs-Merrill v. Straus (1908).

Eh, I miss video rental stores in the US, but I don't agree that they would solve this problem. I worked for a large chain of them as a teen, and know first-hand that people were spending just as much on rentals as they do with subscription services, especially when you add in game rentals and late fees.

More importantly, it does not solve the problem of ownership. We don't own a rented disc just as much as we don't own a DRM-controlled digital purchase that can only be accessed via the subscription portal it was purchased on.

Re: The same nine streaming subscriptions cost $702/year more than in 2021

#43

You could be presenting the most carefully-researched information in the world, but with such an obviously vibecoded site I'm not going to attempt to read it.

You could be presenting the most carefully-researched text in the world, but with such obviously machine made paper I'm not going to attempt to read it.

Re: The same nine streaming subscriptions cost $702/year more than in 2021

#44
post #27

Ok a price increase but: "nine streaming subscriptions". No one sane will do nine streaming subscriptions. The market is insane in itself for assuming that.

Apple Music, Netflix, Disney+, BBC.

That's four. I don't want any of them.

Three I have to take due to kids' nagging, the fourth I have to take due to state apparatus' nagging and legal threats.

Re: The same nine streaming subscriptions cost $702/year more than in 2021

#45
post #27

Ok a price increase but: "nine streaming subscriptions". No one sane will do nine streaming subscriptions. The market is insane in itself for assuming that.

There are lots of insane people though. They fall for the “cheaper than a cup of coffee”’trick repeatedly

Re: The same nine streaming subscriptions cost $702/year more than in 2021

#46
post #27

Ok a price increase but: "nine streaming subscriptions". No one sane will do nine streaming subscriptions. The market is insane in itself for assuming that.

I don’t think the point is that this is the assumption of people’s real subscription behavior, more to show that it’s getting more expensive overall.

Re: The same nine streaming subscriptions cost $702/year more than in 2021

#47
post #25

I am still happy with my decision to never get entertainment subscription services. I buy CDs (that I rip) and BDs (that I let someone else rip, since that's a science in itself). This guarantees me access forever and I get to sell down the line, if I feel like it. It is way cheaper long term.

Streaming services do not offer you what you like forever, they offer you what you didn't know about for the amount of time you need to watch it. So these are two different things

Same here, that's the main value I get from especially music streaming services: I hear about anartist, and can immediately go check otu their discography.

Re: The same nine streaming subscriptions cost $702/year more than in 2021

#48
post #25

I am still happy with my decision to never get entertainment subscription services. I buy CDs (that I rip) and BDs (that I let someone else rip, since that's a science in itself). This guarantees me access forever and I get to sell down the line, if I feel like it. It is way cheaper long term.

>It is way cheaper long term.

How few songs do you listen to, and movies/shows do you watch, for this to possibly be true?

Re: The same nine streaming subscriptions cost $702/year more than in 2021

#49
Context matters, because absent it folks will look at these increases and shrug it off as inflation (or let companies shrug it off with that excuse).

To truly contextualize it, we need to understand the total value (library sizes, removed/lost media, household/account sharing costs) relative to its price, and relative to background inflation. We need to understand relative to costs (labor, infrastructure, royalties), to profits, and how industry consolidation has or has not affected these data points.

From my own understanding of the wider context, there’s a significant attribution of costs to naked greed and profit extraction rather than overall value. With job displacement due to AI (despite union contracts), the tearing down of series or films due to CEO preference (looking at you, Zaslav), the overlap of libraries (Hulu and Disney are increasingly the same thing; Hulu/Disney/Peacock are the same thing as Hulu alone was just seven years ago), the punitive measures against account sharing, and with the forcing of advertisements onto previously ad-free platforms or pricing tiers, the overall cost relative to societal value has decreased while value to executives and shareholders has increased, and that’s the real takeaway.

Re: The same nine streaming subscriptions cost $702/year more than in 2021

#50

Any price comparison over time should include inflation. Otherwise this is akin to comparing speed of 2 objects in a relativistic setting without stating the frame of reference. Side note: I don't know why, but the existence of a "cite this" section on this page made me sad.

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