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Re: All grown-ups were once children, but only few of them remember it

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Post by le-mark »

rapsey wrote: post #85
Terr_ wrote: post #30

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> She grew up in a completely different world, Also, back then in 1925 infant mortality was probably ~10x worse [0], which adds to how we (today) might underestimate the prevalence of parent-child traumas. [0] https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/SP.DYN.IMRT.IN?location...

I don't know why you are down voted. Death was so much more present in kids lives back then. Death from diseases and injuries so common. Kids having dead siblings entirely normal.

The writing of Charles Dickens support this thesis strongly!

Re: All grown-ups were once children, but only few of them remember it

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Post by Markoff »

rapsey wrote: post #87
Markoff wrote: post #14

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I like some of her books, but I am quite annoyed with kids most of the time coming from poor families with missing father/mother, it's like she couldn't write a book without some tragedy, of course the most famous Emil of Lönneberga and The Six Bullerby Children are from normal families (there is probably reason why these are the most famous and beloved), but already Pippi Longstocking is pretty F-ed up and don't get…

Kids do think about death. Hiding or avoiding the discussion does nothing. My kids absolutely adored Brothers Lionheart.

Have you read the book or your kids just read it without you knowing what is it about?

This book says basically - no biggie, there is no death, you commit suicide to move to another level to be with your brother, you can't lose him, you have infinite lives in this videogame called Life. And what if I F up the next level? no biggie, you just commit suicide again to be with him, there is no such thing as permanent death/separation from your loved ones, after each death you just move to another level. That's really F up thing to teach small kids, who should know death is permanent.

Re: All grown-ups were once children, but only few of them remember it

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Post by Markoff »

thaumasiotes wrote: post #34
hutattedonmyarm wrote: post #20

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Might be a Vivaldi problem. It has "Computer Modern Sans" in Firefox which seems to be perfectly legible

In Firefox, all text outside the headline post, including the name and username that begin the headline post, appears to be in some kind of shrunken state which ruins its appearance. Zooming in solves the problem and causes the letters to appear correct rather than grotesquely malformed. I don't know how the site was allowed into production like this.

you are right, it seems to be more zoom issue than font issue (or combo since I don't really experience this elsewhere, which is why I mentioned it), if I zoom out to 90% it becomes normally readable, but at default 100% zoom it is malformed unreadable (btw. I use 225% Windows 10 scaling at 2560x1440)

Re: All grown-ups were once children, but only few of them remember it

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Post by [deleted] »

burticlies wrote: post #3

I see this clearly at kids birthday parties whenever there is a piñata. Adults hate them. All they see is the goal and the incredibly inefficient path the kids are taking towards it. But the kids love it, they don’t care when they miss, they are just enjoying hitting something with a stick. And every miss heightens the excitement for the eventual lolly scramble.

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Re: All grown-ups were once children, but only few of them remember it

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Post by mmoll »

Markoff wrote: post #95
gambiting wrote: post #73

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>>which is glorifying suicide I've literally re-read it this year again and I couldn't disagree more, like, to a point where I wonder if we even read the same book. That book made me scared of dying when I was a child, and it made me appreciate the finality of death again now that I'm a grown up. There's nothing there that "glorifies" suicide - we could have a meta 2026 conversation about whether it's trying to say t…

I read it this year to kids and the book says basically - no biggie, there is no death, you commit suicide to move to another level to be with your brother, you can't lose him, you have infinite lives in this videogame called Life. And what if I F up the next level? no biggie, you just commit suicide again to be with him, there is no such thing as death, after each death you just move to another level. So there is no…

”…the book says basically - no biggie, there is no death“

So does the Bible.

Re: All grown-ups were once children, but only few of them remember it

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Post by Markoff »

vintermann wrote: post #25
Markoff wrote: post #14

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I like some of her books, but I am quite annoyed with kids most of the time coming from poor families with missing father/mother, it's like she couldn't write a book without some tragedy, of course the most famous Emil of Lönneberga and The Six Bullerby Children are from normal families (there is probably reason why these are the most famous and beloved), but already Pippi Longstocking is pretty F-ed up and don't get…

Remember that Astrid Lindgren was born in 1907, got pregnant at 18 and had to give up her son to a foster home for the first few years. She grew up in a completely different world, and it's no coincidence that a lot of her stories are basically about consoling traumatized children.

I am familiar with her background she was sadly later projecting into many/most of her books. I am pretty sure vast majority of Swedish kids was growing back then in complete families without dead mother/father, same as they do nowadays regardless of marriage or divorce status.

Emil of Lönneberga and The Six Bullerby Children are great books, the rest about traumatized kids/orphans not so much as kid books.

Re: All grown-ups were once children, but only few of them remember it

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Post by watwut »

giov4 wrote: post #107
astura wrote: post #100

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I would have killed to play carnival games like that when I was a kid but they were absolutely strictly forbidden, because 1) they are obviously not worth the price (scam) and 2) prizes are just junk that we didn't have room in the house for anyways. You can just say no. I have never played a single one of those types of games in my life because once I was old enough to work I understood my parents point of view. I'm…

is there a price or cost for happyness? which lesson is it exactly?

1.) That gambling is not worth of money even if it is fun for a moment.

2.) Something being fun but expensive is skippable and it is good to be able to say "no" to expensive fun.

Re: All grown-ups were once children, but only few of them remember it

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Post by nephihaha »

ErroneousBosh wrote: post #51
galaxyLogic wrote: post #7

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The British rock-band Traffic said it in their "Low Spark of High-Heeled Boys" : "... we were children once, playing with toys". I wonder if it's true that people don't remember. People maybe remember but don't want to talk about it. It is such a cognitive dissonance.

Runrig's song "Fichead Bliadhna", too, but that's more kind of a protest song: Ruith sa mhonadh, ruith nam beann ’S mar sin dhan sgoil aig deireadh samhraidh Nar clann aig còig bliadhna dh’aois ’S gun facal Beurla nar ceann translated: Freedom of the moor, freedom of the hills (Ruith is literally "running" though) And off to school at summer's end As children of five years old And not a word of English in our heads P…

Run of the moors, run of the hills

And like that to school at summer's end

Us being children of five years of age

Without a word of English in our heads

That's my literal translation anyway.

I was talking to an American yesterday who couldn't understand the concept of the Highlands yesterday. His whole idea was of a place presented magically but with little more than funny accents in it.

I tried to get over to him all the history of suppression, eviction, lack of economic development etc... but the big one is cultural. If the Highlands lose their culture (and they already have largely) then they are indistinguishable from anywhere else.

Re: All grown-ups were once children, but only few of them remember it

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Post by thaumasiotes »

Markoff wrote: post #123
thaumasiotes wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In Firefox, all text outside the headline post, including the name and username that begin the headline post, appears to be in some kind of shrunken state which ruins its appearance. Zooming in solves the problem and causes the letters to appear correct rather than grotesquely malformed. I don't know how the site was allowed into production like this.

you are right, it seems to be more zoom issue than font issue (or combo since I don't really experience this elsewhere, which is why I mentioned it), if I zoom out to 90% it becomes normally readable, but at default 100% zoom it is malformed unreadable (btw. I use 225% Windows 10 scaling at 2560x1440)

I can attest that the same thing happens to other fonts.

I have the opposite problem from you, though; for me the font (outside of the focused post) is already being rendered too small and zooming out doesn't help. Zooming in to 110% fixes it (while making some pretty big changes to the layout of the webpage...).

I'm at 150% scaling, 3840x2160.

Re: All grown-ups were once children, but only few of them remember it

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Post by watwut »

Markoff wrote: post #126
vintermann wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Remember that Astrid Lindgren was born in 1907, got pregnant at 18 and had to give up her son to a foster home for the first few years. She grew up in a completely different world, and it's no coincidence that a lot of her stories are basically about consoling traumatized children.

I am familiar with her background she was sadly later projecting into many/most of her books. I am pretty sure vast majority of Swedish kids was growing back then in complete families without dead mother/father, same as they do nowadays regardless of marriage or divorce status. Emil of Lönneberga and The Six Bullerby Children are great books, the rest about traumatized kids/orphans not so much as kid books.

You are sure wast majority of kids had both parents same as today after WWI when childbirth was way more dangerous then today?

One of parents being dead was way more commom situation then it is today.

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