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Re: Version control second coming

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Post by vlfig »

Love the enthusiasm but I don't buy the two macro tailwinds he's counting on: ever larger monorepos & more centralisation.

What you version together you build and release together, and there are architectural tensions pushing that size down. E.g. dependency indirection and change frequency. Mileage will surely vary by domain, but the idea that the "future is monorepo because agents" doesn't track with me.

The centralisation aspect has less to do with connectedness and more with topology, I'd say. Here, the agentic ways might actually push towards more hierarchical and distributed topologies than the centralised hub-and-spoke.

Re: Version control second coming

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Post by skydhash »

collabs wrote: post #47
vanderZwan wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The author has a severe case of being oblivious to the fact that not everyone knows what they know, or views the world the way they do. As shown for example by their assertion that "we all stopped coding manually around December 2025" , as if AI critics don't exist. As a result you have to look at what they share about themselves to infer where they're going with things, because they never explicitly state it. All tr…

> They also keep bringing up gigantic mono-repos and how Git can't handle the scale at which AI increases the amount of code bloat or commits. I don't understand why everyone keeps saying "AI" can write code and somehow the rest of the world can't keep up when we haven't even solved a more basic problem that "AI" itself can't keep up with the code it writes. Claude on the web has to search and scan to find the releva…

>> > They also keep bringing up gigantic mono-repos and how Git can't handle the scale at which AI increases the amount of code bloat or commits.

I also doubt very much that the average monorepo is bigger than the linux kernel. While the latter is a single software as things go, it contains quasi independent subsystems. And those repos don't usually have a merge flow that is as smooth as the Linux kernel. If you have chaotic process, then the result won't be very good and it's not git's fault.

Re: Version control second coming

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Post by gritzko »

vanderZwan wrote: post #42
teiferer wrote: post #10

2/3 down the article I gave up. What are you trying to tell me? What is this revolution about? How are agent things fundamentally different and how are they being solved? What is this "second coming"? Also, why "second"? Was git the first? But then what about all the other things before it? CVS was huge before, for better or worse.

The author has a severe case of being oblivious to the fact that not everyone knows what they know, or views the world the way they do. As shown for example by their assertion that "we all stopped coding manually around December 2025" , as if AI critics don't exist. As a result you have to look at what they share about themselves to infer where they're going with things, because they never explicitly state it. All tr…

> Wirth's law is an adage on computer performance which states that software is getting slower more rapidly than hardware is becoming faster.

So, datacenters will fix that.

Re: Version control second coming

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Post by gritzko »

teiferer wrote: post #10

2/3 down the article I gave up. What are you trying to tell me? What is this revolution about? How are agent things fundamentally different and how are they being solved? What is this "second coming"? Also, why "second"? Was git the first? But then what about all the other things before it? CVS was huge before, for better or worse.

I read it yesterday and had a discussion on Git Discord. The author believes people will slop Google-scale repos and Google-type SCM is needed now. Some say a USB-C cable has more computing power than the Apollo program, so maybe.

Banks, airlines, power infra, and other high-stakes customers got computerized in the 60s and 70s. IBM still holds a chunk of that market. Microsoft and Google are not going anywhere. So I guess all that slop will serve something less critical than all of the above.

Re: Version control second coming

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Post by imp0cat »

gritzko wrote: post #55
teiferer wrote: post #10

2/3 down the article I gave up. What are you trying to tell me? What is this revolution about? How are agent things fundamentally different and how are they being solved? What is this "second coming"? Also, why "second"? Was git the first? But then what about all the other things before it? CVS was huge before, for better or worse.

I read it yesterday and had a discussion on Git Discord. The author believes people will slop Google-scale repos and Google-type SCM is needed now. Some say a USB-C cable has more computing power than the Apollo program, so maybe. Banks, airlines, power infra, and other high-stakes customers got computerized in the 60s and 70s. IBM still holds a chunk of that market. Microsoft and Google are not going anywhere. So I…

USB-C charger, not cable.

Re: Version control second coming

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Post by gritzko »

imp0cat wrote: post #56
gritzko wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I read it yesterday and had a discussion on Git Discord. The author believes people will slop Google-scale repos and Google-type SCM is needed now. Some say a USB-C cable has more computing power than the Apollo program, so maybe. Banks, airlines, power infra, and other high-stakes customers got computerized in the 60s and 70s. IBM still holds a chunk of that market. Microsoft and Google are not going anywhere. So I…

USB-C charger, not cable.

My Claude says that a decent cable has an ARM Cortex-M0 running at tens of MHz, while the Apollo Guidance Computer was 1MHz. I am afraid to think what a charger packs.

Re: Version control second coming

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Post by vanderZwan »

gritzko wrote: post #53
vanderZwan wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The author has a severe case of being oblivious to the fact that not everyone knows what they know, or views the world the way they do. As shown for example by their assertion that "we all stopped coding manually around December 2025" , as if AI critics don't exist. As a result you have to look at what they share about themselves to infer where they're going with things, because they never explicitly state it. All tr…

> Wirth's law is an adage on computer performance which states that software is getting slower more rapidly than hardware is becoming faster. So, datacenters will fix that.

Is this an ironic "tell me you don't learn from history without telling me you don't learn from history" joke?
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