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Re: Amazon refused to give pregnant workers bathroom breaks

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It didn't take long for people to appear in here to say it's not too bad.

HN has a sizable contingent of commenters who reliably show up to defend billion and trillion dollar corporations and reprehensible corporate behavior. I honestly can't explain it without alleging astroturf.

I assume they're bots

Re: Amazon refused to give pregnant workers bathroom breaks

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Sounds right. On the flip side there are jobs where random bathroom breaks don't really work. EG: bus driver. So I am actually not sure how that works for a pregnat bus driver. Letting her randomly stop the bus at rush hour to pee doesn't seem fair to the commuters. Probably in practice pregnant bus drivers get assigned to a short route or something like that. I don't know the nature of Amazon warehouse work. It's po…

What the fuck? Edit: Sorry to be brusque. You're suggesting that it's conscionable to disallow a bathroom break that would inconvenience customers or cause a fellow employee to be unable to progress? That category of work culture should be unheard of in the USA, but it's leaking in, and if we don't viciously reject it, we might as well start the country over. If bathroom breaks are frequently causing some kind of una…

All he's saying is when Swift gets on stage and her drummer needs to pee, he's going to have to hold it instead of walking off stage in the middle of the song. Sometimes jobs require periods of required availability.

Re: Amazon refused to give pregnant workers bathroom breaks

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HN has a sizable contingent of commenters who reliably show up to defend billion and trillion dollar corporations and reprehensible corporate behavior. I honestly can't explain it without alleging astroturf.

I assume they're bots

Look, just because someone doesn't have a functioning soul doesn't mean they are a bot.

Re: Amazon refused to give pregnant workers bathroom breaks

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post #29

It didn't take long for people to appear in here to say it's not too bad.

I'm going to say its bad, but especially bad for low paid blue collar workers. When I worked at McDonalds as a kid, a lot of crew would get pregnant and work until 8 months, and be gone for a couple of months, I don't know how they did it, and I don't know why it had to be like that.

Richer white collar workers have it better (much much much better), still not great. Our nation is just failing at this, I don't see Amazon being especially bad beyond the typical bad (which is already too bad). Best case is they just outsource their problem to the lowest bidder and the same or worse behavior happens.

Re: Amazon refused to give pregnant workers bathroom breaks

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If you really wanted to optimize something involving living consciousness beings like a machine, at least you should consider things like the need to take a piss as a hard constraint and design the system around it. Don't get me wrong I love factorio like the next guy and understand the idea behind your thinking, but there should be limits to that thinking in the real world. And if that doesn't convince you consider…

// Honestly - and I don't mean that as an insult - I hope for you to experience (just once) the loss of dignity that not being able to visit the restroom on your own decision will give you. Might make you realize the hell this kind of thinking leads to. I am not insulated and I think my post was received stronger than I intended, with my point being simply that there are jobs where physical presence at a given moment…

Are you on stage at a speaker panel 8 hours a day, every day? Because in the 8 hours a day case 'just holding' isn't an acceptable requirement.

Re: Amazon refused to give pregnant workers bathroom breaks

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I skimmed the lawsuit. As far as I can tell, the complaint is about getting 4 x 15 minute extra breaks during the day and lighter work. Amazon did grant them, but the complaint is that they didn't do it fast enough. There's also something of a disagreement where she expected to be paid for the extra hour of break time every day, but Amazon was counting it as unpaid. She was reassigned to lighter work at her request,…

> I skimmed the lawsuit. As far as I can tell, the complaint is about getting 4 x 15 minute extra breaks during the day and lighter work. Amazon did grant them, but the complaint is that they didn't do it fast enough. There's also something of a disagreement where she expected to be paid for the extra hour of break time every day, but Amazon was counting it as unpaid

That was exactly the point, or the worker would have requested vacation.

Stop kissing corporate's ass.

Re: Amazon refused to give pregnant workers bathroom breaks

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At this point is anyone surprised at what Amazon will do to the plebeian workers that fuel them?

At this point, do people prefer to accept a claim in a lawsuit as the truth if it happens to conform to their model of reality?

Why reflexively side with Amazon on this? They've been known to engage in such anti-workers practice, and have spent millions on union-busting and other illegal stuff like this.

Re: Amazon refused to give pregnant workers bathroom breaks

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I believe you have it reversed sir, we are at the mercy of the top 0.5% I doubt the librarian learned anything.

The warehouse manager certainly isn't in the top 0.5%. Ask yourself why bathroom break policies exist in the first place.

The warehouse manager has quotas very hard to meet without using illegal tactics like this, and the suits above picked someone psychopathic enough to fill that role, to ensure they would actually break the law to meet said quotas.

Re: Amazon refused to give pregnant workers bathroom breaks

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post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

At this point, do people prefer to accept a claim in a lawsuit as the truth if it happens to conform to their model of reality?

Why reflexively side with Amazon on this? They've been known to engage in such anti-workers practice, and have spent millions on union-busting and other illegal stuff like this.

My comment does not indicate I sided with anyone, nor should anyone else solely based on the information the a claim in a lawsuit exists.
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