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Rock band Muse lose social media handles to Meta’s new AI tool

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Re: Rock band Muse lose social media handles to Meta’s new AI tool

#51

> The exact circumstances surrounding the changes aren't clear. The exact circumstances are that they likely paid them a shitload of money.

You base this off what? We really live in a post truth society where innocent asks for evidence supporting a claim are discouraged. I am not saying it stolen, merely asking if there is any proof it was bought. And no, “oCcAms rAZOr” is not evidence.

The fact that the band changed their handles months ago and haven't complained? Occam's razor, man.

Re: Rock band Muse lose social media handles to Meta’s new AI tool

#52
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

You base this off what? We really live in a post truth society where innocent asks for evidence supporting a claim are discouraged. I am not saying it stolen, merely asking if there is any proof it was bought. And no, “oCcAms rAZOr” is not evidence.

This comment and others like it are wild to me. Since when was the default to assume malicious activity and victimization, and then to ask for proof otherwise? Obviously we should do the reverse. There should be evidence of theft rather than assuming theft as the baseline. For starters, if the band's handles were taken non-consensually, then the least we should expect is a public complaint from said band. This is dou…

It became the default due to how Facebook behaves. If facebook employees even occasionally acted like human beings with an ounce of decency, it might be worth not assuming they're evil sacks of shit.

Re: Rock band Muse lose social media handles to Meta’s new AI tool

#54

One of my absolute favorite apps similarly likely got a bid to change. https://allume.com/allume-faq/

Not disclosing how much they were paid... I see that as incredibly dishonest and scummy. Sure "an opportunity regarding the trademark" yadda yadda... empty lawyerspeak that turns me right away.

Re: Rock band Muse lose social media handles to Meta’s new AI tool

#57

> The exact circumstances surrounding the changes aren't clear. The exact circumstances are that they likely paid them a shitload of money.

Funnily enough that is against the Instagram ToS (https://help.instagram.com/termsofuse):

> 4.2 How You Can't Use Instagram. [...]

> You can’t sell, license, or purchase any account or data obtained from us or our Service, regardless of whether such data was obtained while logged-in to an Instagram account.

> This includes attempts to buy, sell, or transfer any aspect of your account (including your username); solicit, collect, or use login credentials or badges of other users; or request or collect Instagram usernames, passwords, or misappropriate access tokens.

Re: Rock band Muse lose social media handles to Meta’s new AI tool

#58

> The exact circumstances surrounding the changes aren't clear. The exact circumstances are that they likely paid them a shitload of money.

Don't be so generous in your assumptions. Meta simply stole the username because they could, and gave the old owner nothing in return. Or if they were lucky, maybe the band got a few Meta branded t-shirts, as was the case for one of the other victims from the article.

Seriously, look at that list of all the times Meta stole people's handles. Why would this time be any different?

Re: Rock band Muse lose social media handles to Meta’s new AI tool

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

This comment and others like it are wild to me. Since when was the default to assume malicious activity and victimization, and then to ask for proof otherwise? Obviously we should do the reverse. There should be evidence of theft rather than assuming theft as the baseline. For starters, if the band's handles were taken non-consensually, then the least we should expect is a public complaint from said band. This is dou…

When a company is known for being malicious by default, to the point of knowingly covering up their ongoing and extensive contributions to teen suicides, it is not unreasonable for people to expect they would steal social media accounts to suit their interests. They are pure unadulterated evil. They are guilty until proven innocent at this point.

Good lord. Please use logic and Occam's Razor this.

Muse is a platinum album winning band that's got 10 albums over 20 years. If this was stolen, they (and their label) would be raising hell.

Re: Rock band Muse lose social media handles to Meta’s new AI tool

#60

> The exact circumstances surrounding the changes aren't clear. The exact circumstances are that they likely paid them a shitload of money.

Don't be so generous in your assumptions. Meta simply stole the username because they could, and gave the old owner nothing in return. Or if they were lucky, maybe the band got a few Meta branded t-shirts, as was the case for one of the other victims from the article. Seriously, look at that list of all the times Meta stole people's handles. Why would this time be any different?

If it happened across multiple platforms (of different owners) and the band themselves are not complaining, months after the rename, it seems quite likely.

Note that if this was done against the band's will it would be fantastic publicity for them to say so. Everyone would be on their side.

Meta probably reached out to them to remove any uncertainty around sharing the Muse trademark, and this was included in the deal. The band themselves didn't lose any followers, it was a rename. They might have asked for a clause not to talk about the deal.

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