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Anthropic Is Building a Predictive Surveillance System to Monitor Activists

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Re: Anthropic Is Building a Predictive Surveillance System to Monitor Activists

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Post by laimewhisps »

urams wrote: post #139
laimewhisps wrote: post #132

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why would you take any of these companies at their word? They know Palantir is toxic.

Your 4D chess model of their thinking is that the risk they run of mentioning a direct competitor, that their potential customers would also be considering, is so great that the value of that comparison is dwarfed by the costs of the risk, so they don't do it. This is some next level strategic thinking. I have to wonder, though, why doesn't Palantir mention them? https://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Apalantir.com+sa…

This isn't as complicated as you're making it. Both companies market themselves as surveillance tools for oppressive regimes. Flock is similar. Do they have exactly the same business model? No. But their brand is spying on the public and protecting those in power.

Re: Anthropic Is Building a Predictive Surveillance System to Monitor Activists

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Post by laimewhisps »

SR2Z wrote: post #138
embedding-shape wrote: post #67

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> Without it our executives would have departed their meetings, they would have ran right into the heart of the disruption Oh no, The Executives might have been exposed to the real world! Why aren't people thinking more about The Executives and what dangers they must face?! Good thing we can systematically monitor every other human being so The Executives don't have to see these terrorists on our streets.

Yes, obviously nothing bad ever happens when someone walks out into an emotional crowd of people who hate them.

Bad for who? I absolutely want people violating my rights to be confronted, regularly.

Re: Anthropic Is Building a Predictive Surveillance System to Monitor Activists

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Post by brightball »

woodgala wrote: post #94
brightball wrote: post #60

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When activists threaten to and follow through with killing people, demand is created. We are 1 year out from Charlie Kirk being shot on a college campus, in case reminders are needed. Many dark corners of the internet encourage and celebrate this type of thing more and more.

Dark corners?!? The president of the US celebrated the killing of State senator Hortman. The fish rots at the head.

Melissa Hortman died less than a week after voting against her party to support something on Trumps agenda.

Re: Anthropic Is Building a Predictive Surveillance System to Monitor Activists

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Post by brightball »

croes wrote: post #101
brightball wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When activists threaten to and follow through with killing people, demand is created. We are 1 year out from Charlie Kirk being shot on a college campus, in case reminders are needed. Many dark corners of the internet encourage and celebrate this type of thing more and more.

Why emphasize Charlie Kirk‘s death? What about Melissa Hortman and her husband, Mark killed earlier in the same year? It’s still people like Kirk who are against effective gun control. “I think it’s worth to have a cost of, unfortunately, some gun deaths every single year so that we can have the Second Amendment,”

Why Charlie?

Because tomorrow is 1 year to the day and it’s on my mind.

Hortman? Agreed. Much more attention needs to be paid to why she was killed less than a week after breaking from her party to vote for something on Trumps agenda.

Re: Anthropic Is Building a Predictive Surveillance System to Monitor Activists

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Post by brightball »

nickthegreek wrote: post #125
addled wrote: post #102

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I think I missed this one (or lost in the flood of news). Got a link? All I can find now is him pushing conspiracy theories about it. Him actually celebrating would be the sort of thing that might convince some MAGA leaning folks I know to change their mind.

Not the person you are replying to, but I wanted to dig into this. I do not see any evidence that he celebrated this. He did decide to try and blame it Waltz though.. https://www.mprnews.org/story/2026/01/04/trump-circulates-fa... https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/1158335374671...

The guy who killed her claimed Tim Waltz put him up to it. It wasn’t found to be credible.

Re: Anthropic Is Building a Predictive Surveillance System to Monitor Activists

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Post by SR2Z »

laimewhisps wrote: post #142
SR2Z wrote: post #138

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, obviously nothing bad ever happens when someone walks out into an emotional crowd of people who hate them.

Bad for who? I absolutely want people violating my rights to be confronted, regularly.

How are your rights being violated?

I'm sure you have a solid and thought-out answer that justifies such a casual attitude towards violence.

Re: Anthropic Is Building a Predictive Surveillance System to Monitor Activists

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Post by urams »

laimewhisps wrote: post #141
urams wrote: post #139

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Your 4D chess model of their thinking is that the risk they run of mentioning a direct competitor, that their potential customers would also be considering, is so great that the value of that comparison is dwarfed by the costs of the risk, so they don't do it. This is some next level strategic thinking. I have to wonder, though, why doesn't Palantir mention them? https://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Apalantir.com+sa…

This isn't as complicated as you're making it. Both companies market themselves as surveillance tools for oppressive regimes. Flock is similar. Do they have exactly the same business model? No. But their brand is spying on the public and protecting those in power.

"Motte? Meet Bailey."

> Both companies market themselves as surveillance tools for oppressive regimes.

Look at some of these "surveillance tools" that they are marketing to "oppressive regimes". Their website brags about these deeply oppressive surveillance features:

- Identifying material threats to your workforce - Integration with Concur and your HRIS

Look at some of the "oppressive regimes" they sell to, such as the evil Amnesty International: https://imgur.com/a/U4Zef3x

Re: Anthropic Is Building a Predictive Surveillance System to Monitor Activists

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Post by brightball »

thephyber wrote: post #112
SoftTalker wrote: post #76

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I'm only vaguely familiar with Charlie Kirk and his messaging but assassination is never a valid response to being offended.

> The Democrat Party believes everything that God hates. Like, we’re dealing with maggots, vermin, and swine here. This is not — these are not good people, they’re not even a little bit good.[1] He also called for the death of Biden (because he was a "tyrant") and all surgeons of transgender people. If he was merely trying to be offensive, then he succeeded. If, however, he was trying to make someone fear enough for…

His entire life is on video. Please pull direct quotes for any of that.

I watched in the aftermath of his death as all of these horrible things he supposedly said were paraded around. Every one was manipulated nonsense.

The machine hated Charlie for telling the truth and people were listening.

Re: Anthropic Is Building a Predictive Surveillance System to Monitor Activists

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Post by defrost »

brightball wrote: post #144
croes wrote: post #101

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why emphasize Charlie Kirk‘s death? What about Melissa Hortman and her husband, Mark killed earlier in the same year? It’s still people like Kirk who are against effective gun control. “I think it’s worth to have a cost of, unfortunately, some gun deaths every single year so that we can have the Second Amendment,”

Why Charlie? Because tomorrow is 1 year to the day and it’s on my mind. Hortman? Agreed. Much more attention needs to be paid to why she was killed less than a week after breaking from her party to vote for something on Trumps agenda.

The far right Christian evangelist that shot Hortman was a an anti-abortion Trump supporter who shot another Minnesota legislator the same day and had papers indicating he had others targeted in addition to perhaps wanting to shoot up a No Kings protest.

His "confession" letter was rambling and nonsensical, his motivation appeared to be a belief that killing at least four democrats (any four) would be enough to shift the balance of power in the state.

Re: Anthropic Is Building a Predictive Surveillance System to Monitor Activists

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Post by laimewhisps »

SR2Z wrote: post #146
laimewhisps wrote: post #142

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Bad for who? I absolutely want people violating my rights to be confronted, regularly.

How are your rights being violated? I'm sure you have a solid and thought-out answer that justifies such a casual attitude towards violence.

I'm being surveilled and profiled by these companies. Let their CEOs feel maximum heat.
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