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Post by brewdad »

insaneirish wrote: post #100
nobleach wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> the most advanced camera in an iPhone I mean, I can't remember the last time they DIDN'T say that. Variable aperture is kinda cool I guess. 256Gigs of storage basically means everyone's going to have to upgrade their iCloud storage monthly spend just to back this thing up. I've stopped sending my camera roll to iCloud just to save on space.

> I've stopped sending my camera roll to iCloud just to save on space. This is an interesting choice. Photos from my phone would literally be the last thing I ever turned off backup for. To each their own...

Agreed. The photo backup is so seamless. I’ve been documenting my electronics and other possessions for insurance purposes and in anticipation of a move. It’s been so easy to go around the house taking photos of serial numbers and such with the better camera on my phone. Then I grab my iPad and update the spreadsheet. Nothing needed to happen on my end, the photos are just there for my iPad to access and as later proof if I ever need it.

Re: iPhone 18 Pro and iPhone 18 Pro Max

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Post by ShinyLeftPad »

ksec wrote: post #60

I am actually quite excited on this iPhone 18 Pro. Seems to pack a a lot of exciting stuff. 2nm A20 Pro, C2. I wish they have N2 but I guess not. 2nd Generation Vapour Chamber. I thought I would have to wait another generation because Apple like to use new product features for two generation before moving on. And it seems this Vapour Chamber along with other heat desperation features are much better built. Much bette…

> The only thing that need radical change is iOS.

Personally iSO 26 is so unbelievably glitchy, it's only not embarrasing because you know others spent $$$ on the same thing so everyone pretends it's fine.

Re: iPhone 18 Pro and iPhone 18 Pro Max

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Post by apetresc »

w4der wrote: post #137
dabinat wrote: post #112

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It would be great if they could use the LiDAR scanner to sign a depth map of the scene in front of the camera. It would show if you photographed a flat image.

And what if you take a picture across a IR-filtered window?

Then you won’t be able to prove it was a genuine photograph? That sounds like the right failure mode.

Re: iPhone 18 Pro and iPhone 18 Pro Max

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Post by dijit »

Jtsummers wrote: post #20
dijit wrote: post #5

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we’ll be waiting a while. The last Mini was iPhone 8 sized, when I considered anything larger than the 5 to be too much. The Mini thus, undersold, because if you were fine with the 8 then iPhones of that size were still available (2nd Gen SE). Nobody bought: So Apple thinks theres no market.

> The last Mini was iPhone 8 sized It was smaller than the iPhone 8. It was slightly thicker (0.01"), shorter (by 0.27") and narrower (0.13"). And it had a bigger display despite being overall smaller. It was bigger than the 5, though.

maybe I'm misremembering the dimensions of the 8.

I did, however, take a series of photos comparing the Mini to the SE- and the packaging of the 6 (I think I gave the phone away but still had the box).

https://imgur.com/a/iphone-mini-vs-iphone-5-vs-iphone-6-case...

Re: iPhone 18 Pro and iPhone 18 Pro Max

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Post by awkwardleon »

spacebanana7 wrote: post #141
quinncom wrote: post #66

I love that it has a feature to prove images came from the real world: > Users can now prove the authenticity of a photo taken on iPhone 18 Pro models with Apple Reference Image, powered by the new sensor in the Main camera that can sign every pixel it sees. When a photo is taken in the new Reference mode, the camera captures signed sensor data that Private Cloud Compute develops into an unalterable reference image.5…

The weakness of this is that a person can take a picture of a high resolution screen or print. We really need Apple to open up true depth APIs to make forgery non trivial.

Agree with the weakness, but the benefit of provenance is still there. You can't tell if the picture that person took is of an AI image, but there's some value in saying "I took this" and being able to prove it.

Re: iPhone 18 Pro and iPhone 18 Pro Max

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Post by hombre_fatal »

dgellow wrote: post #111
millipede wrote: post #102

The things we need to know most, RAM and Memory Bandwidth, are unfortunately missing from the release. Their absence doesn't bode well.

What do you do with your phone that requires you to know the memory details? Genuine question, I have absolutely no idea how much memory my iPad or phone have and don’t see why I would need to know

To know what you're getting. No further reasons needed.

Re: iPhone 18 Pro and iPhone 18 Pro Max

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Post by rickdeckard »

BISH-BASH-BOSH wrote: post #2

Is the C2 modem the satellite data chip?

It's their in-house cellular modem for 2G/3G/4G/5G.

No details on satellite comms, but the predecessor C1X also handles satellite communication and competitor Qualcomm also does satellite comms on the same silicon, so I'd say yes.

Re: iPhone 18 Pro and iPhone 18 Pro Max

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Post by apetresc »

spacebanana7 wrote: post #141
quinncom wrote: post #66

I love that it has a feature to prove images came from the real world: > Users can now prove the authenticity of a photo taken on iPhone 18 Pro models with Apple Reference Image, powered by the new sensor in the Main camera that can sign every pixel it sees. When a photo is taken in the new Reference mode, the camera captures signed sensor data that Private Cloud Compute develops into an unalterable reference image.5…

The weakness of this is that a person can take a picture of a high resolution screen or print. We really need Apple to open up true depth APIs to make forgery non trivial.

I don’t know too much about image processing, but my intuition tells me that distinguishing a photo of a 3d scene from a photo of a photo of a 3d scene is a much easier engineering problem than distinguishing it from an AI-generated diffusion. So even just reducing the problem to the former is still a worthy accomplishment.

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Post by RetpolineDrama »

ivm wrote: post #129
ksec wrote: post #60

I am actually quite excited on this iPhone 18 Pro. Seems to pack a a lot of exciting stuff. 2nm A20 Pro, C2. I wish they have N2 but I guess not. 2nd Generation Vapour Chamber. I thought I would have to wait another generation because Apple like to use new product features for two generation before moving on. And it seems this Vapour Chamber along with other heat desperation features are much better built. Much bette…

> The only thing that need radical change is iOS. Please, not again. – Sincerely yours mobile developer

Introducing SwiftUI2: Every UI is a simple prompt, and all the underlying code is generated.

Re: iPhone 18 Pro and iPhone 18 Pro Max

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Post by chrisweekly »

lotsofpulp wrote: post #142
tonyedgecombe wrote: post #125

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>I doubt any phone battery is lasting 5+ years. Just coming up to five years on mine and it is still at 87% capacity.

I have an iphone 13mini at 5 years and 81% capacity.

My 13pro is at 84% capacity, but in the last month or two it seems to lose charge much more rapidly than it used to. Probably the only reason I'll consider an upgrade.
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