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Re: Apple Watch Ultra 4

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Post by ElijahLynn »

pilif wrote: post #46

The Ultra 2 was sold to me as the watch that can do Siri without network connectivity. That was very useful to me to leave reminders for stuff I think about while on a run without the phone. 3 years later, Apple releases the OS 27 versions and Siri got improved to the point where it can’t work on-device any more on said Ultra 2 So to get the feature back which I paid for and which was specifically used to sell me the…

Apple's marketing department is amazing, however, they just don't line up with the engineering department. I quit Apple long ago because they overhyped so many things, it feels misleading intentionally sometimes.

Very good marketers though, I'll give them that.

Re: Apple Watch Ultra 4

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Post by rootusrootus »

Dlemlo wrote: post #66
rootusrootus wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A tragic case, and maybe things were different back then. Now, Lilly caps their insulin out-of-pocket costs at $35/month, insurance or not. Walmart has cheap no-insurance insulin, too, I'm not sure if that was true in 2017 though. Alec was trying to ration a much more expensive insulin variant, which definitely sucks, and laws were changed in response to his story.

Josh Wilkerson And it wasn't just a case. And i'm not allowed to reference this? I mean i can reference a lot of other things which are still happenin in the USA or do you know want to argue that united states of america takes good care of its people?

> do you know want to argue that united states of america takes good care of its people

I'm not downvoting you, but perhaps the people who are are taking issue with cherrypicking examples, which are well known for a reason -- they are uncommon. Using these to generalize America is not really a great argument.

I could point to David Clapson in the UK as an indictment of their universal health care, and it wouldn't be any better an argument.

Re: Apple Watch Ultra 4

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Post by rootusrootus »

nradov wrote: post #95
browningstreet wrote: post #75

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Why so helpless? Maybe try and solve the problem before complaining about it. Pedometer apps that pull from Apple Health and offer Watch face complications are a dime a dozen in the app store.

Users just find it odd that this isn't a built-in optional data field considering that step counting (pedometer) has been one of the most common smartwatch use cases for many years now.

First the complaint is that steps are not on the watch face. Then the complaint moves to it not being part of Apple's built-in complications. It seems more like nitpicking just to be contrary. The data is there and easily accessed for people who want it, and we should be happy that there are a plethora of third-party complications that can be used on the Watch.

Re: Apple Watch Ultra 4

#104

Post by nvahalik »

nradov wrote: post #93
nvahalik wrote: post #76

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130ft/40m is standard limit for non-tec diving. Past that depth, you will be using diving computers and not a smartwatch. And the training you receive will help you to understand why.

Who is "you"? I have the training and sometimes go significantly deeper. I use a competing Garmin smartwatch, works great. Do you understand why?

How deep are you going? What gas mixtures are you using? Which Garmin are you using? If you're using a Mk3i or a G2 (or related) you are using a diving computer in a smart watch form factor. It is custom built for this... unlike the Apple Watch Ultra.

Re: Apple Watch Ultra 4

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Post by gruturo »

nradov wrote: post #93
nvahalik wrote: post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

130ft/40m is standard limit for non-tec diving. Past that depth, you will be using diving computers and not a smartwatch. And the training you receive will help you to understand why.

Who is "you"? I have the training and sometimes go significantly deeper. I use a competing Garmin smartwatch, works great. Do you understand why?

You go significantly deeper? You're aware that shortly past 50mt the partial pressure of oxygen causes neurotoxicity, leading to convulsions and death? Anything happening past those depths involves extremely expensive hardware, custom trimix breathing gases and most importantly a hell of a good reason to even bother doing it - that is NOT the environment for an Apple Watch.

Re: Apple Watch Ultra 4

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Post by rootusrootus »

ktallett wrote: post #92
rootusrootus wrote: post #18

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On the flip side, Apple blows them away on feature set, and often on data accuracy. There is give & take, different priorities for different people.

Blows them away? I haven't seen anything that is not just one or two features that other watches don't have. But all the.features require the watch to be on. Data accuracy most certainly is not in relation to GPS which often cuts distances on the Apple Watch.

People like to complain about the GPS but I use it when running and it'll easily show me what side of the path I was on at any given point. And the path distance matches precisely with other sources of truth. Maybe there was a time when Garmin had an advantage on some of their watches but I am far from convinced that this has been true anytime in the past few years.

Re: Apple Watch Ultra 4

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Post by cromka »

noja wrote: post #90
mwidell wrote: post #82

So apparently Siri AI is not coming to my part of the world anytime soon because of EU law. With that, I see no reason at all to upgrade from my Ultra 1, as not much else has improved in any meaningful way in 3 years. Don't get me wrong, I love my Ultra 1. But I had hoped for more innovation in three generations of it.

Not because of eu law. Because Apple wants an exception to the rules.

They don't get it. Malicious compliance. So many credible proofs of them doing it, but people still rather be apologists for a trillion dollars company.

Re: Apple Watch Ultra 4

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Post by [deleted] »

danielmarkbruce wrote: post #48
ryanschaefer wrote: post #12

Had this thought during the presentation. How is the “rewind” feature legal? Don’t a lot of states have laws against making secret recordings?

You've always been allowed to transcribe (ie, write) out a conversation. Recording is a different thing. A person can always claim, easily and believably, that the transcription is made up. It's just text.

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Re: Apple Watch Ultra 4

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Post by gruturo »

ktallett wrote: post #3

Two days is so poor for a ultra watch. The fact it won't last a full weekend let alone any significant hike just means it doesn't fit the market it is aiming at.

A weekend? How about a full week at the absolute bare minimum, if not more.

3 days is a complete joke. Competitors have battery lives measured in weeks rather than days (a famous, and still 100% appropriate, quote by Garmin. Now 5 years old and counting, and the situation is still as ridiculously bad).

Seriously what is it even doing to justify going through the battery so fast? Are they just bad at programming?

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