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Claude, change the “Add to Cart” button to blue

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Re: Claude, change the “Add to Cart” button to blue

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Post by theshrike79 »

gopher_space wrote: post #359
theshrike79 wrote: post #306

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This is why I have a PROJECT.md in all my repos, which specifically reiterates that this is a greenfield single user project that never leaves my LAN. It tends to relax some of the insane things LLMs tend to do.

Your approach but I picture thin slices of descending context and try to give models buttons to push[0] instead of a blank check. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Museum_(Black_Mirror)

Yea, it's like we have a super smart alien computer that can do anything but we need to spend massive amounts of time building fences and moats and write extremely detailed instructions so it doesn't run away and try to "help".

Re: Claude, change the “Add to Cart” button to blue

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Post by sixsevenrot »

mrinterweb wrote: post #190
dudeinhawaii wrote: post #164

Great site, triggered memories! haha. To try to add something to this discussion -- I think that while I've seen these sort of loops less --- what I have seen is "overly helpful". Models nowadays want to double-triple-quadruple check things. I'm being silly but it verges on "I have a working solution but let me write a variation in Rust to ensure a convergent solution and prove this works". I've had to stop models no…

> triggered memories Yeah of 10 minutes ago. It is shocking how long some seemingly simple things can take. I know there are some things I can do faster than the LLM and some things it can do faster than me. The amount of rambling BS is the exhausting part.

Does it help if thinking is not set to High?

Re: Claude, change the “Add to Cart” button to blue

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Post by jacobgkau »

tsukikage wrote: post #280
selestify wrote: post #232

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How does one learn to interact with Claude more effectively?

Realise that you are talking to some mathematics in a box. You can't get a rise out of it. It cannot feel guilt or remorse. Whatever emotional payoff one might want from "I asked for ONE button" cannot be had here. Meanwhile, not only are you being charged by the word, but every word you send that is not directly on the path to getting what you want done is just noise in the maths getting in your way. So leave emotio…

> Meanwhile, not only are you being charged by the word,

I've never explicitly paid for AI and never will. I only use the free Claude, etc. So I'm happy to waste THEIR electricity telling their machine how much of a piece of garbage it is and hoping that sentiment gets back in some form to the dumb humans making such a dumb product. It's not like they don't evaluate performance with usage data.

(Afterwards, I do also make sure to actually click the "thumbs down" or whatever equivalent button, and submit a report if it's possible.)

Re: Claude, change the “Add to Cart” button to blue

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Post by teiferer »

selestify wrote: post #238
teiferer wrote: post #97

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> In my experience, telling the model it screwed up without specifically addressing, unambiguously, how to fix it, only leads to more suffering. I wonder if this is just a reflection of some senior folks being arrogant towards junior folks. When the latter finished a task but not to the liking of the senior person they might just get a "that's wrong, try again". Just to have sth similar repeat the second time around.…

How is "Make the shopping button blue" not specific? Any human with a lick of digital common sense would be able to understand what I obviously mean. How am I supposed to anticipate every single way the AI could possibly misinterpret a simple fucking instruction like that?

Absolutely, the initial prompt appears sufficient. But this is about the thing screwing up and the user giving corrective instructions. Saying essentially "are you dumb" is not helpful for neither a human nor a machine if you think the original instructions should have been sufficient. Clearly they were not in that case, if you like it or not. Just repeating or being condescending is not going to help.

Re: Claude, change the “Add to Cart” button to blue

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Post by Terr_ »

taeric wrote: post #119
tarxzvf wrote: post #112

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Models hallucinate plausible answers to why they did things. It might be true and it might be complete fiction.

I'm growing increasingly confident that this is how people often work, as well.

I see this observation frequently, and I dislike how it often has the unsound subtext of: "Therefore something is going well or at least not too badly."

If you build a robot where a pressurized hose leaks causing fluid to destroy part of the circuitry, we don't praise it as progress towards the human ideal of having brain aneurysms. A similar failure-path is not a reliable indicator of a similar success-path.

Re: Claude, change the “Add to Cart” button to blue

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Post by MisterMunchkin »

bahbahbahbah wrote: post #295
dudeinhawaii wrote: post #164

Great site, triggered memories! haha. To try to add something to this discussion -- I think that while I've seen these sort of loops less --- what I have seen is "overly helpful". Models nowadays want to double-triple-quadruple check things. I'm being silly but it verges on "I have a working solution but let me write a variation in Rust to ensure a convergent solution and prove this works". I've had to stop models no…

Plus rigorously ensuring backwards compatibility for a project that is 2 hours old and has zero users.

Yeah you tell it to rename a value from a select field and it keeps the old value throughout the code “just in case a user calls it via an api”

Re: Claude, change the “Add to Cart” button to blue

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Post by littlekey »

johnisgood wrote: post #135

> Why is half the site blue now? I asked you to change one button. > Half the site is blue. I asked for ONE button. Those are my only options when the site is clearly not blue, two buttons are. There is a reason for why I am much more specific than this.

Same experience here, it worked great. Really more of an advertisement FOR claude rather than a takedown.
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