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Anthropic Is Building a Predictive Surveillance System to Monitor Activists

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Re: Anthropic Is Building a Predictive Surveillance System to Monitor Activists

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When next government become worse than the previous one, such technologies become handy for new emperor to keep power and crush dissent. What today is used for good, tomorrow can be used for evil.

Man, why are you copy-pasting comments from the 90s? The current government is maximally evil and interested in using technology to keep power and crush dissent. You don't need to introduce hypotheticals!

I am not yet waiting for my turn into the gas chamber.

Re: Anthropic Is Building a Predictive Surveillance System to Monitor Activists

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post #102

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Dark corners?!? The president of the US celebrated the killing of State senator Hortman. The fish rots at the head.

I think I missed this one (or lost in the flood of news). Got a link? All I can find now is him pushing conspiracy theories about it. Him actually celebrating would be the sort of thing that might convince some MAGA leaning folks I know to change their mind.

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Re: Anthropic Is Building a Predictive Surveillance System to Monitor Activists

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Of course it is. Are you instead thinking of the carefully controlled and choreographed “protests” in countries like China where the government and especially the police knows with absolute certainty what the crowd is protesting against and how they are protesting, with an overwhelming police presence that’s ready to shut down the whole protest at the first whiff of trouble? And of course it is a high-stress situatio…

> Suppose for the sake of argument you did not vote for Donald Trump, would it not be stressful if no one told you in advance that a group of Trump supporters are protesting against the “unfair” votes right in front of you? No. There will most likely be a way to get around or through the crowd. The article talks about a protest and not an angry mob. > Sometimes you just don’t want politics in your life and just want…

> There will most likely be a way to get around or through the crowd.

That’s exactly what the article said what the Anthropic executive did: get into the hotel through a service entrance. So you support and would do what the Anthropic executive did as well.

Re: Anthropic Is Building a Predictive Surveillance System to Monitor Activists

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By allowing the monitoring of AI conversations, we are creating a dystopian world where essentially all recorded or spoken thought is monitored (given that AI has or will have access to almost all conversations). Is this the world we want to live in?

Like anything else online, if you want something to be private, don't post it. Absolutely nothing you view, send or post on any online service can be assumed to be private. If someone told you they were planning a mass shooting and wanted advice for how to carry it out, would you report them?

So do you think offline language models should be outlawed or restricted?

Re: Anthropic Is Building a Predictive Surveillance System to Monitor Activists

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post #102

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Dark corners?!? The president of the US celebrated the killing of State senator Hortman. The fish rots at the head.

I think I missed this one (or lost in the flood of news). Got a link? All I can find now is him pushing conspiracy theories about it. Him actually celebrating would be the sort of thing that might convince some MAGA leaning folks I know to change their mind.

Not the person you are replying to, but I wanted to dig into this. I do not see any evidence that he celebrated this. He did decide to try and blame it Waltz though..

https://www.mprnews.org/story/2026/01/04/trump-circulates-fa...

https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/1158335374671...

Re: Anthropic Is Building a Predictive Surveillance System to Monitor Activists

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Like anything else online, if you want something to be private, don't post it. Absolutely nothing you view, send or post on any online service can be assumed to be private. If someone told you they were planning a mass shooting and wanted advice for how to carry it out, would you report them?

So do you think offline language models should be outlawed or restricted?

I don't know how you inferred that. I said nothing about restricting offline computing.

Re: Anthropic Is Building a Predictive Surveillance System to Monitor Activists

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The editorializing in this article is quite something. If I strip out the editorializing, I think the conclusions are: 1. Someone told Claude they had an AR-15 and the CEO of Anthropic was "in their sights". Anthropic reported this to the police. 2. Anthropic contracts with a security agency. 3. Anthropic is looking to build in-house capability for security. Anthropic clearly has high-value targets (see, e.g. the per…

Your Microsoft example is only equivalent if Microsoft was also scanning hotmail and MSN messenger for threats against the company.

Re: Anthropic Is Building a Predictive Surveillance System to Monitor Activists

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So do you think offline language models should be outlawed or restricted?

I don't know how you inferred that. I said nothing about restricting offline computing.

Ok, so the rules for someone who selfhosts vs. Hosts for others should be different? What if I provide inference services to my family members, should I monitor their interactions and report them if I find anything dangerous?

Re: Anthropic Is Building a Predictive Surveillance System to Monitor Activists

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No, I don't want to live in that world, and I would definitely read an article discussing how to ensure we don't reach that world. That said, I think that world is quite a few steps away from the scenario being discussed, which is "when talking to X, X might report my conversation to the police". You comment elsewhere that this might be a have vs have-not divide -- if you can afford to self-host a powerful LLM, you w…

... and the advantage of the frontier models over anything you can possibly self-host continues to increase at an even more insane pace.

It's my perspective that open models are closing the gap faster than the frontier is widening it.

I'm not alone in that opinion.

Re: Anthropic Is Building a Predictive Surveillance System to Monitor Activists

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It's baffling how oblivious these people appear to be. I still can't tell if it's an act or not. If it is, what benefit do they get from playing dumb? If not, how did we let people who don't understand basic cause and effect or basic human emotion become in charge of the future of the world?

I thought his repeated use of the phrase "ordinary people" instead of something like "laypersons" was a little telling about how he views himself and the members of his industry. The opposite of ordinary is, of course, extraordinary. https://xcancel.com/DarioAmodei/status/2088758816376807762#m

> The opposite of ordinary is, of course, extraordinary.

Not just that: The ordinary is also the trivial, while the extraordinary is the relevant. In other words a dichotomy of who does not matter... and who does. And in the words of Maya Angelou: "When someone shows you who they are, believe them the first time".

It doesn't get much clearer than that.

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