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Re: iPhone Duo

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Post by speerer »

MPSimmons wrote: post #226

Why do they insist on every new phone being bigger than the phones before them? I don't mind folding. I think it's cool, and a nice way to get a useful space. But I have big hands, and I can't use my iphone 17 now without two hands. This is even wider before unfolding. Who wants bigger phones? Who is like, "damn I wish I had a tablet that I could fold up and still barely fit in my pocket"? I want smaller phones. The…

> Why do they insist on every new phone being bigger than the phones before them?

Because every time, they want it to be the next big thing.

Re: iPhone Duo

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Post by samwillis »

InsideOutSanta wrote: post #323

The people at Microsoft who made the Surface Duo must be feeling pretty weird seeing this. The name, the aspect ratio, the way the UI works, the gestures for setting up split-screen, the "use it as a tiny laptop" mode... It's all things they pioneered. Not that that's a bad thing. I absolutely loved the Surface Duo, it was my favorite phone until it stopped working correctly, and I hope other Android manufacturers ta…

Good design is inevitable.

In a completely clean room environment where a designer had never seen a folding phone, but had all the context of the iPhone and everything Apple had done, they would develop almost exactly the same design and features.

Designers have also been exploring the concept of foldable devices for literal decades, well before any reached the market. I have an industrial design and technology degree, we did a project in 2005 where we explored the designs around this, looking at the UI, the physical interaction, everything. My design had a similar aspect ratio and size, as I am sure half the student did my year and every other year they ran the project. (the iPhone Duo is about thousand times better than my design though!)

Thats not to say the Microsoft designers didn't do an incredible job, they did, but they were building on decades of design ideation from those that had experimented before them.

Re: iPhone Duo

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Post by owldown »

w10-1 wrote: post #93

What about left-handed people? Will the controls line up on the left?

I'm right-handed but I always keep my phone in my left pocket and use it with my left hand (keys have always been in my right pocket). I'm also pretty curious about the answer to this.

Re: iPhone Duo

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Post by andrewla »

Annoying that they gave this thing touch id but not the non-folding version.

Restoring Touch ID is one of the things that might make me upgrade my existing iPhone before its time.

Re: iPhone Duo

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Post by kotaKat »

InsideOutSanta wrote: post #323

The people at Microsoft who made the Surface Duo must be feeling pretty weird seeing this. The name, the aspect ratio, the way the UI works, the gestures for setting up split-screen, the "use it as a tiny laptop" mode... It's all things they pioneered. Not that that's a bad thing. I absolutely loved the Surface Duo, it was my favorite phone until it stopped working correctly, and I hope other Android manufacturers ta…

The difference here is Microsoft didn't have to take the hardware and pivot a new OS onto it at the last minute.

Remember... the Duo was supposed to be a cursed Windows 10-esque device. They brought on Movial to do a pivot to Android, then bought out the porting team in early 2024 to keep working on what they should have released in preparation for the Duo 2 (which is what they actually NEEDED to sell as an Android device at the time, but flopped in doing so).

I returned mine in late 2023. It wasn't the best experience and I was missing out on things like NFC dearly.

Re: iPhone Duo

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Post by zuInnp »

I tried the Samsung one with the same form factor in a store , and that is pretty nice. As someone traveling via plane or train, I can easily see myself using this and not carrying my tablet with me. However, just too expensive for my taste. I get a lot of new batteries for my current 12 pro for that price .

Re: iPhone Duo

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Post by FailMore »

MPSimmons wrote: post #226

Why do they insist on every new phone being bigger than the phones before them? I don't mind folding. I think it's cool, and a nice way to get a useful space. But I have big hands, and I can't use my iphone 17 now without two hands. This is even wider before unfolding. Who wants bigger phones? Who is like, "damn I wish I had a tablet that I could fold up and still barely fit in my pocket"? I want smaller phones. The…

I’m still stuck on my iPhone 12 mini because I like the size

Re: iPhone Duo

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Post by Hamuko »

MPSimmons wrote: post #226

Why do they insist on every new phone being bigger than the phones before them? I don't mind folding. I think it's cool, and a nice way to get a useful space. But I have big hands, and I can't use my iphone 17 now without two hands. This is even wider before unfolding. Who wants bigger phones? Who is like, "damn I wish I had a tablet that I could fold up and still barely fit in my pocket"? I want smaller phones. The…

>Who wants bigger phones?

If we go by history, consumers. And when Apple last offered a smaller phone, consumers did not go for it.

Re: iPhone Duo

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Post by BryantD »

a_e_k wrote: post #391

$2000! I really don't get why people spend so much on flagship phones! I tend to aim for $200 Motos for me and my family, and it feels like it's a 90%+ solution at a tenth of the price. I can still browse the web, text with people, make calls, listen to music, and take pictures. They still last for years, and if they get dropped and the screen cracks, it just means its time to upgrade. What am I missing here?

I'm not getting a first generation of these things but if I could replace my iPad and my iPhone with this, the economics start to make more sense. Not for everyone, of course, but it'd be within my budget for replacing both devices.

I'm not sure the unfolded version will be big enough to truly replace my iPad Pro, though.

Re: iPhone Duo

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Post by stellar678 »

InsideOutSanta wrote: post #323

The people at Microsoft who made the Surface Duo must be feeling pretty weird seeing this. The name, the aspect ratio, the way the UI works, the gestures for setting up split-screen, the "use it as a tiny laptop" mode... It's all things they pioneered. Not that that's a bad thing. I absolutely loved the Surface Duo, it was my favorite phone until it stopped working correctly, and I hope other Android manufacturers ta…

Apple continues to Microsoftify themselves: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YvX3laQlg14
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