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How GPT‑5.6 Sol helps run quantum computing experiments

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Re: How GPT‑5.6 Sol helps run quantum computing experiments

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Post by ecshafer »

yaseer wrote: post #72
Iuz wrote: post #70

Every time I open one of the multiple daily posts about Anthropic or OpenAI and read the comments, I get this weird feeling. Astroturfing is obviously common in political spaces, whether to normalize certain views, manufacture consensus, or shift public opinion. It seems to me that HN would be a prime target for tech companies to do the same thing, and lately I can't shake the impression that there's a lot of it goin…

The death of HN has been lamented since at least 2007 (in addition to the cliche that it's turning into Reddit, mentioned in the guidelines). So far, it hasn't died nor turned into Reddit.

When it gets to politics or economics there are an increasingly large amount of reddit like socialism comments. It seems ironic given its run by a VC firm.

Re: How GPT‑5.6 Sol helps run quantum computing experiments

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Post by tartoran »

ronnier wrote: post #107
mentalgear wrote: post #102

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> filled with negative sentiment posts that leaves one angered and not filled with a positive light You mean the negative sentiments that you get when people uncover how big tech/monopolies/government really works ? I guess you would rather read la-la-land stories about the entrepreneurial aces of the 2010s when techies and the general populace were still gullible for that.

Yes. That’s not what I want to read on hn. You can go to Reddit or many other places for that and fill yourself with anger all you want. I personally do not want that for me and if hn continues the way it’s headed then I’ll block it like I did Reddit.

Discussions are just discussions. You can always opt out not participate. HN's guidelines make discussions here are a lot more civil than reddit.

Re: How GPT‑5.6 Sol helps run quantum computing experiments

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Post by SpicyLemonZest »

ronnier wrote: post #75
yaseer wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The death of HN has been lamented since at least 2007 (in addition to the cliche that it's turning into Reddit, mentioned in the guidelines). So far, it hasn't died nor turned into Reddit.

The political posts have definitely increased and the front page is increasingly filled with negative sentiment posts that leaves one angered and not filled with a positive light. For years I didn’t flag anything. Now I’m daily flagging political posts.

As I'm always telling people, the phenomenon you're noticing is that the President of the United States wishes to increase negative sentiment and widen the scope of things which are subject to politics. It's not something that HN or its users get a choice in. If you don't like it, I'm with you, but you're going to have to take it up with him.

Re: How GPT‑5.6 Sol helps run quantum computing experiments

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Post by SpicyLemonZest »

avazhi wrote: post #110
yaseer wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The death of HN has been lamented since at least 2007 (in addition to the cliche that it's turning into Reddit, mentioned in the guidelines). So far, it hasn't died nor turned into Reddit.

> So far, it hasn't died nor turned into Reddit. Depends how you define it. I mean, just because you or the moderators say so doesn't make it true - I've used this site for more than 10 years and I've never seen a higher proportion of political posts nor a higher proportion of blatantly partisan comments on most (not just political) threads. It isn't like this site would be likely to die in the sense of 0 people visi…

> What started out as a nerdy tech space slowly over time has and is morphing into political bullshit that never would have made the front page 10 years ago.

Don't you see how we're propagating the problem here? It would be easy for someone who wants a nerdy tech space to read and discuss the contents of the source article, describing how a new technology might change the experimental process for quantum computing research. Instead we're engaging in political meta-commentary, under an OP comment speculating that "[t]his site might be dying" because they don't like hearing about the company who published it.

Re: How GPT‑5.6 Sol helps run quantum computing experiments

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Post by qwerpy »

tartoran wrote: post #112
ronnier wrote: post #107

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes. That’s not what I want to read on hn. You can go to Reddit or many other places for that and fill yourself with anger all you want. I personally do not want that for me and if hn continues the way it’s headed then I’ll block it like I did Reddit.

Discussions are just discussions. You can always opt out not participate. HN's guidelines make discussions here are a lot more civil than reddit.

There’s a difference between on-topic discussions relevant to the post and “discussions” that veer off into the same emotional tribal rants that we see constantly now. We try to ignore it but the constant negativity and “us vs them” is not healthy, let alone meaningful discussion.

Re: How GPT‑5.6 Sol helps run quantum computing experiments

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Post by user43928 »

ForHackernews wrote: post #98
user43928 wrote: post #95

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Directionally we are seeing demand for more compute. It's a reasonable assumption that data centers that are set up for large power usage and cooling will be valuable. Claiming the opposite based on, well, nothing at all, in order to forecast a correction, seems less reasonable.

"Compute" is not one generic commodity. Filling your datacentres with ASICs that do nothing but compute SHA256 for Bitcoin mining was a smart move in 2015 but today that hardware is worthless e-waste. What does the depreciation curve look like for nvidia cards purchased today? How long will it take to recoup the investment on this buildout? Will those datacenters pay for themselves before they're scrapped?

It's an interesting question. Some napkin math:

Let's say we serve a Fable class model on 8x B300.

From Kimi K3 metrics, with 8x concurrent streams, we would achieve 55-60 tok/s per stream, matching Fable 5.1 throughput.

432 tok/s x 3600 => 1.555M output tokens/h x 50$/M API price = $77.76 revenue per hour.

Assuming total API billing at 2.06x output token bill = $160.2 / hour or ~$20 per B300.

A server with 8x B300 could be $461.5k.

At an obviously unrealistic 100% utilization we would look at 4 months of revenue to match the cost of the server.

About how model serving works at scale and actual utilization I know little.

And for all we know Anthropic could serve their model with 64 streams on the same hardware instead of the 8 we assumed here.

Re: How GPT‑5.6 Sol helps run quantum computing experiments

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Post by gpt5 »

squidbeak wrote: post #90
gpt5 wrote: post #77

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Especially since these anti-AI comments completely disappear in posts about Chinese AI progress.

This is total bollocks. The skeptics are all present and just as forceful in any AI thread.

Give a single post as an example where the anti AI comments are prevalent?

Re: How GPT‑5.6 Sol helps run quantum computing experiments

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Post by Helloworldboy »

ecshafer wrote: post #111
yaseer wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The death of HN has been lamented since at least 2007 (in addition to the cliche that it's turning into Reddit, mentioned in the guidelines). So far, it hasn't died nor turned into Reddit.

When it gets to politics or economics there are an increasingly large amount of reddit like socialism comments. It seems ironic given its run by a VC firm.

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Re: How GPT‑5.6 Sol helps run quantum computing experiments

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Post by stevenhuang »

Iuz wrote: post #70

Every time I open one of the multiple daily posts about Anthropic or OpenAI and read the comments, I get this weird feeling. Astroturfing is obviously common in political spaces, whether to normalize certain views, manufacture consensus, or shift public opinion. It seems to me that HN would be a prime target for tech companies to do the same thing, and lately I can't shake the impression that there's a lot of it goin…

LLMs are advancing the frontiers of knowledge. Is it really that hard for you to believe that people are simply genuinely fascinated about these developments?

People are burnt twice shy and have become comically cynical. Your discernment has been completely shot.

Re: How GPT‑5.6 Sol helps run quantum computing experiments

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Post by jryle70 »

Iuz wrote: post #70

Every time I open one of the multiple daily posts about Anthropic or OpenAI and read the comments, I get this weird feeling. Astroturfing is obviously common in political spaces, whether to normalize certain views, manufacture consensus, or shift public opinion. It seems to me that HN would be a prime target for tech companies to do the same thing, and lately I can't shake the impression that there's a lot of it goin…

The whole thread without a single technical post about the significance (or not) of the announcement. Who want to follow me to create a new site that focus on the substance of the news?

I'm not abandoning HN, I can come back here to make fun of posts I don't like, post shallow comments, snarky ones, vent my conspiracy theories, complain about the evils that are S, A or E, post my personal anecdotes, advocate for my beliefs which I'm convinced as the only truth. Last but not least, feel smug posting about AI sounding posts. HN is a great place for all of that.

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