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Is OpenAI Taking Everyone for Fools?

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OpenAI claims to have solved a decades old mathematical problem just as researchers are about to publish about their solution. Coincidence?

AI derangement syndrome is amazing.

The researchers were also using AI so we're really just arguing over how much AI is allowed. But somehow a lean-verified proof that came first doesn't count because reasons.

If you have been involved in academia in any way, you know this happens all the time because the field is nearing a breakthrough, not a single person.

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OpenAI claims to have solved a decades old mathematical problem just as researchers are about to publish about their solution. Coincidence?

AI derangement syndrome is amazing. The researchers were also using AI so we're really just arguing over how much AI is allowed. But somehow a lean-verified proof that came first doesn't count because reasons. If you have been involved in academia in any way, you know this happens all the time because the field is nearing a breakthrough, not a single person.

No, we're arguing over whether or not openai stole the other researcher's work. The evidence is pretty damning.

https://techcrunch.com/2026/09/08/openai-fought-dirty-on-car...

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OpenAI should put their internal model to solve the rest of Millenium Prize problems too (assuming their difficulty is in the same ballpark). That would be a proof the model did it without using existing work on the problem.

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OpenAI should put their internal model to solve the rest of Millenium Prize problems too (assuming their difficulty is in the same ballpark). That would be a proof the model did it without using existing work on the problem.

They did do this, but it seems that Navier-Stokes is the only one that was successful (unless, for some strange reason, they have proofs for the other problems but haven’t released them yet).

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

AI derangement syndrome is amazing. The researchers were also using AI so we're really just arguing over how much AI is allowed. But somehow a lean-verified proof that came first doesn't count because reasons. If you have been involved in academia in any way, you know this happens all the time because the field is nearing a breakthrough, not a single person.

No, we're arguing over whether or not openai stole the other researcher's work. The evidence is pretty damning. https://techcrunch.com/2026/09/08/openai-fought-dirty-on-car...

Actually the evidence is not damning at all.

The evidence is a combination of two things: Tristan insinuating they did (note, not claiming but suggesting or implying), and their own statement saying "While unlikely, we cannot rule out that de-identified data derived from their usage of our products helped improve our models ."

The latter is being used by everyone as a sign of guilt, but it's clear that they are making a legally-safe statement since promising a forensic level guarantee that nothing Tristan has every typed into ChatGPT has ever made its way into any training data is a massive claim.

It's also a ridiculous expectation since tons of researchers use ChatGPT or Codex and many have "Use this data to improve" setting on.

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