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Re: Better AI code comment detector

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Post by fnord77 »

amelius wrote: post #7

I find that the text that AI produces is sometimes unintelligible without putting _real_ effort into reading it. It's like the AI is becoming so intelligent that it spreads the information around through different sentences in a different way than humans do. I guess if you are a transformer with thousands of tokens of lookahead, why wouldn't you ... Anyway, I wish the LLMs were trained with a human-text-detector in t…

> I find that the text that AI produces is sometimes unintelligible without putting _real_ effort into reading it

I know exactly what you mean and it's fatiguing if you used the tool or whatever for more than a few hours

Re: Better AI code comment detector

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Post by saejox »

my handwritten very detailed 10 lines comment block is %87 robot. and i use broken english with wrong grammer all the time.

you are not the only one, Pangram and GPTZero also think it is written by a bot.

ai detection may be an unsolvable issue.

Re: Better AI code comment detector

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Post by wren6991 »

amelius wrote: post #7

I find that the text that AI produces is sometimes unintelligible without putting _real_ effort into reading it. It's like the AI is becoming so intelligent that it spreads the information around through different sentences in a different way than humans do. I guess if you are a transformer with thousands of tokens of lookahead, why wouldn't you ... Anyway, I wish the LLMs were trained with a human-text-detector in t…

I don't buy the "too intelligent to communicate" thing. Feynman was an exceptional communicator. So was Einstein. LLMs are just getting worse at writing, as we continue to aggressively RL them for coding.

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Post by paimapi »

amelius wrote: post #7

I find that the text that AI produces is sometimes unintelligible without putting _real_ effort into reading it. It's like the AI is becoming so intelligent that it spreads the information around through different sentences in a different way than humans do. I guess if you are a transformer with thousands of tokens of lookahead, why wouldn't you ... Anyway, I wish the LLMs were trained with a human-text-detector in t…

that means it's a bad writer. a good writer knows who their reader is and curates their style and complexity to fit. Claude writes like someone who doesn't give a single shit about whether or not you've memorized an initialism it made for some process 10 hours ago. it's the same issue that people have been having with the impenetrability of needless and performative jargon

Re: Better AI code comment detector

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paimapi wrote: post #14
amelius wrote: post #7

I find that the text that AI produces is sometimes unintelligible without putting _real_ effort into reading it. It's like the AI is becoming so intelligent that it spreads the information around through different sentences in a different way than humans do. I guess if you are a transformer with thousands of tokens of lookahead, why wouldn't you ... Anyway, I wish the LLMs were trained with a human-text-detector in t…

that means it's a bad writer. a good writer knows who their reader is and curates their style and complexity to fit. Claude writes like someone who doesn't give a single shit about whether or not you've memorized an initialism it made for some process 10 hours ago. it's the same issue that people have been having with the impenetrability of needless and performative jargon

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Re: Better AI code comment detector

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Post by amelius »

paimapi wrote: post #14
amelius wrote: post #7

I find that the text that AI produces is sometimes unintelligible without putting _real_ effort into reading it. It's like the AI is becoming so intelligent that it spreads the information around through different sentences in a different way than humans do. I guess if you are a transformer with thousands of tokens of lookahead, why wouldn't you ... Anyway, I wish the LLMs were trained with a human-text-detector in t…

that means it's a bad writer. a good writer knows who their reader is and curates their style and complexity to fit. Claude writes like someone who doesn't give a single shit about whether or not you've memorized an initialism it made for some process 10 hours ago. it's the same issue that people have been having with the impenetrability of needless and performative jargon

> that means it's a bad writer.

The problem is that Anthropic and others use the text generated by LLMs also to power the AI's internal thinking loop. This means that text is used in two different ways: one as input to AI, and the other as input to humans.

They are always trying to make the LLMs more intelligent. Guess what kind of output will suffer?

Re: Better AI code comment detector

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Post by bcrosby95 »

mermadicsolutio wrote: post #8
dcss_gardener wrote: post #5

Unfortunately my naive heuristic of "if there is a comment it is written by AI" is nearly as accurate.

hahaha 99.9% of the time this is accurate, especially when the comment is accurate and long

Yes, my favorite codebase to work in is one full of accurate and long comments that detail that making a function call it never called would cause problems because of the details of a function that gets called 3 layers deeper.

Re: Better AI code comment detector

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Post by pessimizer »

paimapi wrote: post #14
amelius wrote: post #7

I find that the text that AI produces is sometimes unintelligible without putting _real_ effort into reading it. It's like the AI is becoming so intelligent that it spreads the information around through different sentences in a different way than humans do. I guess if you are a transformer with thousands of tokens of lookahead, why wouldn't you ... Anyway, I wish the LLMs were trained with a human-text-detector in t…

that means it's a bad writer. a good writer knows who their reader is and curates their style and complexity to fit. Claude writes like someone who doesn't give a single shit about whether or not you've memorized an initialism it made for some process 10 hours ago. it's the same issue that people have been having with the impenetrability of needless and performative jargon

It's more than disorganized - that disorganization hides a bunch of 1) horseshit assertions from nowhere and 2) contradictory statements both given as evidence for the same conclusions.

My entire day is getting praised and apologized to for "holding me to a higher standard" and "pointing out the obvious contradiction." Meanwhile, I'm stuck and can't move forward (because every suggestion is dumb but asserted with the same confidence as the last) and the tokens are draining dry.

When I hear about people converting huge projects to Rust, I'm starting to think that translation is the only thing that they're good at. If you've already entirely specified the problem they can restate the problem without making more than a couple hundred (and getting fewer every day) mistakes.

It's just making it up, and when the things that it is making up are not obvious, it bullshits, it doesn't retrace. Then it builds on that bullshit.

It's not you that's dumb, it's them that are dumb. The people evaluating its output in post-training are also too often deciding that it's they themselves that are misunderstanding, especially when it buries the topic at hand with a bunch of excess verbiage and strange assumptions that they don't have time to independently verify. The need to believe something based on expediency often results in the rationalization that some 3D chess is being played. More like 3 card monte.

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