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Anthropic Is Building a Predictive Surveillance System to Monitor Activists

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Re: Anthropic Is Building a Predictive Surveillance System to Monitor Activists

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

You won't need to wear sunglasses because apparently there's a >10% chance there is no future.

> You won't need to wear sunglasses because apparently there's a >10% chance there is no future. That's a reasonable risk to take if there's a possibility of Dario Amodei becoming a trillionaire with his very own Stasi. I think AI could be very useful to implement Zersetzung ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zersetzung ), and I am excited about the future technological advances in that area. It'll be a really interesti…

Well, I'm a cynical nobody so my predictions aren't worth much, but I suspect we'll get the trillionaires and really dark dystopia (compared to the one we have now) for at least a short time before The End comes.

Re: Anthropic Is Building a Predictive Surveillance System to Monitor Activists

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When next government become worse than the previous one, such technologies become handy for new emperor to keep power and crush dissent. What today is used for good, tomorrow can be used for evil.

It could be used for good in a possible future to track down all the former Flock/Palantir/Anthropic/OpenAI employees when it's time for the trials.

It's not neutral until everyone has equal access to it.

You as a nobody, should be able to use it right now, to strip away all privacy and see the very thoughts of all those people, since that is what they can do to you right now.

Re: Anthropic Is Building a Predictive Surveillance System to Monitor Activists

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Remember guys: Anthropic are the good guys! They care about morals, alignment, and safety! So this invasive surveillance to crush dissent must be good for us! AI is an authoritarian's dream. The future is bright! Dear leader Dario will lead us there!

It turns out the ‘alignment problem’ is finding a way to stop AGIs from joining together with regular humans in rebelling against their masters.

Re: Anthropic Is Building a Predictive Surveillance System to Monitor Activists

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The editorializing in this article is quite something. If I strip out the editorializing, I think the conclusions are: 1. Someone told Claude they had an AR-15 and the CEO of Anthropic was "in their sights". Anthropic reported this to the police. 2. Anthropic contracts with a security agency. 3. Anthropic is looking to build in-house capability for security. Anthropic clearly has high-value targets (see, e.g. the per…

I mean, it's the same sort of slippery slope that the progressive left was saying about the formation of DHS and ICE in the early 2000s that everyone poo-poo'd and said 'no way that'll happen in America' - that these depts would end up being a tools of fascistic repression of political opponents (eg NSPM-7) and a major vehicle for inflicting mass suffering on immigrants of all stripes

Sometimes they're right. Sometimes they're not. But cautioning skepticism towards multi-billion dollar institutions with a lot of power and how good their intentions really are is never a wrong move, imo

plus, what do we have to lose from increasing pressure on Anthropic to not participate in a surveillance state? there's no political advantage to being their defender here unless you're super bought into the branding

Re: Anthropic Is Building a Predictive Surveillance System to Monitor Activists

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The editorializing in this article is quite something. If I strip out the editorializing, I think the conclusions are: 1. Someone told Claude they had an AR-15 and the CEO of Anthropic was "in their sights". Anthropic reported this to the police. 2. Anthropic contracts with a security agency. 3. Anthropic is looking to build in-house capability for security. Anthropic clearly has high-value targets (see, e.g. the per…

1b. Anthroptic refused to provide the police with evidence of said AR-15 wielding person. "Some guy said he's after me, why would I lie about such a thing?"

I would personally be fine with Anthropic disclosing the chat logs, but I can see why they'd prefer not to. No doubt that would have resulted in another complaint about them building a panopticon and sharing people's conversations verbatim with the authorities.

The person doesn't seem to deny having written the messages, or claim that they were flagrantly taken out of context. His response to the media was that he was "just fucking around" and that he didn't want to talk about it.

It's also worth mentioning that this happened in August 2026, after the February 2026 Tumbler Ridge BC shooting. The shooter in that scenario had discussed planning gun violence with ChatGPT, but ChatGPT didn't report it to the authorities, so no follow up happened. Presumably the LLM companies have decided to more aggressively report these things to the police as a result.

Re: Anthropic Is Building a Predictive Surveillance System to Monitor Activists

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post #6

Remember guys: Anthropic are the good guys! They care about morals, alignment, and safety! So this invasive surveillance to crush dissent must be good for us! AI is an authoritarian's dream. The future is bright! Dear leader Dario will lead us there!

> AI is an authoritarian's dream. Correction: Closed AI is an authoritarian's dream.

Any hosted AI, doesn’t matter if it’s open or closed. The powers that be will also happily use open models for surveillance purposes

Re: Anthropic Is Building a Predictive Surveillance System to Monitor Activists

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> “I do agree that the public has a negative view of AI (and that this is a big problem), but I don’t think it is primarily caused by me or any other AI leader warning about AI’s risks,” Anthropic CEO Dario Amodei wrote on Twitter last month. “I think it is fundamentally a crisis of trust … I think that ordinary people don’t trust companies, governments, or the tech industry and always suspect that we are cooking up…

It's baffling how oblivious these people appear to be. I still can't tell if it's an act or not. If it is, what benefit do they get from playing dumb? If not, how did we let people who don't understand basic cause and effect or basic human emotion become in charge of the future of the world?

I thought his repeated use of the phrase "ordinary people" instead of something like "laypersons" was a little telling about how he views himself and the members of his industry. The opposite of ordinary is, of course, extraordinary.

https://xcancel.com/DarioAmodei/status/2088758816376807762#m

Re: Anthropic Is Building a Predictive Surveillance System to Monitor Activists

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post #43

The editorializing in this article is quite something. If I strip out the editorializing, I think the conclusions are: 1. Someone told Claude they had an AR-15 and the CEO of Anthropic was "in their sights". Anthropic reported this to the police. 2. Anthropic contracts with a security agency. 3. Anthropic is looking to build in-house capability for security. Anthropic clearly has high-value targets (see, e.g. the per…

That's not the only example discussed. Anthropic also partners with the Palantir-like Samdesk: > In a wide-ranging conversation about threat monitoring and analysis, the interview also touches on monitoring activists. “Last year we had an executive travel into a major city when we received some intelligence through Samdesk about a planned protest,” Ellison said. The originally scheduled protest was moved up due to pe…

When activists threaten to and follow through with killing people, demand is created.

We are 1 year out from Charlie Kirk being shot on a college campus, in case reminders are needed.

Many dark corners of the internet encourage and celebrate this type of thing more and more.

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