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Claude, change the “Add to Cart” button to blue

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Re: Claude, change the “Add to Cart” button to blue

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This is actually what keeps people using AI: variable reward schedule. It's basically gambling.

I see this sentiment pretty regularly, and I don’t get it. Variable rewards is not sufficient to establish that it is “ basically gambling”. Everything in life is variable reward. You invite a friend over, they might accept or they might not. Drive to work, traffic might be good or might be bad. You ask a colleague to finish a task, they might do it or might not or might do a good job or might not. Everything is vari…

I would agree that 1-2 years ago models were more "slot machine"-esque - sometimes the output was good, sometimes the output was bad. And as a result, I primarily used them for auto-complete functionality and bouncing ideas around. In those workflows, you can easily ignore it if the spin is wrong.

Not everyone has the desire to work around the system, and many are diametrically opposed to the concept of AI. They get this perception that it's a slot machine because of that inconsistency, and then do the human thing of assuming that other people must just be flawed if they're different from them. They're "addicted to gambling".

Obviously, things have changed. Open models can still be like that, but are often so fast and cheap at iterating it doesn't matter. SOTA models aren't perfect, but are to the point that they're generally much better than the average developer.

But once that perception set in and the meme spreads, it's really hard for some to break out of it. Especially at the pace AI development has been moving. It's just that simple.

Re: Claude, change the “Add to Cart” button to blue

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I'm growing increasingly confident that this is how people often work, as well.

No. People have an inner monologue, partial results and ideas and they remember that. If they've worked some minutes/hours/weeks on something and you ask them why did they do that, they will either answer honestly and truthfully, lie, or say "I missed that/didn't seem important so I just chose something at random". None of these cases are similar to how AI works.

> People have an inner monologue

Perhaps up to 50% of people actually don't have an inner monologue, much like many have aphantasia where they can't actually see anything in their mind either.

Re: Claude, change the “Add to Cart” button to blue

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No. People have an inner monologue, partial results and ideas and they remember that. If they've worked some minutes/hours/weeks on something and you ask them why did they do that, they will either answer honestly and truthfully, lie, or say "I missed that/didn't seem important so I just chose something at random". None of these cases are similar to how AI works.

Actually split brain experiments tells a different story. The left hemisphere actively confabulates, inventing plausible explanations for actions it didn’t initiate, suggesting that much of human self-narrative may be post-hoc storytelling.

Indeed. People literally make stuff up when their corpus callosum is severed.

Re: Claude, change the “Add to Cart” button to blue

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But its not even good satire, because its totally unrepresentative of my and most others' lived experience. Its similar to making a joke about a calculator misadding two numbers because a stray beam of solar radiation flipped a bit.

Agreed, this site isn't reflective of any of my experience with Claude. It does what I ask it to do, and when it doesn't get it right, it generally turns out there's a good reason for it, which is any of the 100 reasons a human doesn't always get code fixes right on the first try either. I do remember that one of the first things I did with my CLAUDE.md was to tell it to stick to the scope of the task, never to jump…

Aye, and amid all of the (admittedly annoying) word salad, the "Claude" in this satire identified the reason the requested change was hard: someone(s) at some point had hijacked the button markup for other purposes. Un-doing all of that kind of mess is never a trivial change, and probably requires someone with more coding expertise / knowledge of the code than the given prompts reveal the putative user to be.

AI isn't magic, and it won't (or, at least, doesn't yet) enable anyone to do All The Things.

Re: Claude, change the “Add to Cart” button to blue

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I dont find this to be indicative of Claude (opus?) at all. My experience doesnt lead me to think it would change a cancel button to blue if I ask it to change an "Add to Cart" button to blue. I assume this is just a contrived example?

I think it's best read as a humorous piece of creative fiction and you can employ your suspension of disbelief for this ride

Re: Claude, change the “Add to Cart” button to blue

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No. People have an inner monologue, partial results and ideas and they remember that. If they've worked some minutes/hours/weeks on something and you ask them why did they do that, they will either answer honestly and truthfully, lie, or say "I missed that/didn't seem important so I just chose something at random". None of these cases are similar to how AI works.

Actually split brain experiments tells a different story. The left hemisphere actively confabulates, inventing plausible explanations for actions it didn’t initiate, suggesting that much of human self-narrative may be post-hoc storytelling.

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Re: Claude, change the “Add to Cart” button to blue

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I dont find this to be indicative of Claude (opus?) at all. My experience doesnt lead me to think it would change a cancel button to blue if I ask it to change an "Add to Cart" button to blue. I assume this is just a contrived example?

It’s a contrived example, but also not very far from the mark.

The spinner with random claudisms is what makes the game, mixed with Claude helpfully deciding to pick up some tasks along the way.

I feel like most of my conversations with Claude lately are a battle of “I am a technical user, share technical details, but not random superfluous gibberish”

Re: Claude, change the “Add to Cart” button to blue

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I actually don't end up clicking the "reply" button on a good portion of the replies I start to write.

Don't worry, Reddit/Facebook/Gmail et al. still transmit that draft reply to their servers, store it against your profile, and train on it. Probably.

and ironically, most of them don't even offer the draft feature! Facebook, tiktok, etc... they send your typed message, but if the app crashes or you close it, there's no draft anywhere you can find ;)
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