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Anthropic Is Building a Predictive Surveillance System to Monitor Activists

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Re: Anthropic Is Building a Predictive Surveillance System to Monitor Activists

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Post by zmgsabst »

satellites wrote: post #22
12936 wrote: post #10

Is Amodei's wife deep state? First the Epstein contacts, then gf of Eric Schmidt and then marrying Amodei.

An account created 10 minutes ago is theorizing about the "deep state"... very 2016 of you. Why would billionaires need a secret "deep state"? They can just openly talk about what they're doing with impunity. They own the publicly visible government and everyone knows it. Nothing "deep" about it.

Icebergs are deep and visible.

Deep here is similar to “deep web”, ie, there is depth to the institutions beyond their apparent surface layers. The elites need a deep state because organizations are made of people — and the administrators of the fora where they give those speeches is a great example of people in the deep state.

Re: Anthropic Is Building a Predictive Surveillance System to Monitor Activists

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Post by SpicyLemonZest »

vaylian wrote: post #26

> “That extra hour was critical. Without it our executives would have departed their meetings, they would have ran right into the heart of the disruption.” > [..] “What could have been a high-stress situation,” Democratic protest is now a high-stress situation?

It can be! I've definitely been to protests where, had an executive of the company we were protesting walked by, a lot of people would have gotten in their face and made them very uncomfortable. There's no law against being mean or rude, and often even vaguely threatening speech is protected by the First Amendment.

Re: Anthropic Is Building a Predictive Surveillance System to Monitor Activists

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Post by hasgr »

satellites wrote: post #22
12936 wrote: post #10

Is Amodei's wife deep state? First the Epstein contacts, then gf of Eric Schmidt and then marrying Amodei.

An account created 10 minutes ago is theorizing about the "deep state"... very 2016 of you. Why would billionaires need a secret "deep state"? They can just openly talk about what they're doing with impunity. They own the publicly visible government and everyone knows it. Nothing "deep" about it.

Why the scorn if you fail to understand a simple implication? The thesis (unproven of course) is that certain agencies use women to monitor certain billionaires.

Billionaires do not need the deep state? Palantir was founded partly by In-Q-Tel and "libertarian" Thiel depends on government money. Similarly, most of Anthropic and OpenAI's actual income will come from surveillance.

Re: Anthropic Is Building a Predictive Surveillance System to Monitor Activists

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Post by cldellow »

The editorializing in this article is quite something.

If I strip out the editorializing, I think the conclusions are:

1. Someone told Claude they had an AR-15 and the CEO of Anthropic was "in their sights". Anthropic reported this to the police.

2. Anthropic contracts with a security agency.

3. Anthropic is looking to build in-house capability for security.

Anthropic clearly has high-value targets (see, e.g. the person with the AR-15 from point 1). When I worked at Microsoft in the 2000s, they also had in-house security to investigate threats against facilities and executives.

I would believe Anthropic is doing evil things, but I don't think this article actually makes that claim, despite the bombast about "pre-crime".

Re: Anthropic Is Building a Predictive Surveillance System to Monitor Activists

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Post by seemaze »

corv wrote: post #9
palmotea wrote: post #6

Remember guys: Anthropic are the good guys! They care about morals, alignment, and safety! So this invasive surveillance to crush dissent must be good for us! AI is an authoritarian's dream. The future is bright! Dear leader Dario will lead us there!

Future so bright I need to wear sunglasses — at night

>Future so bright I need to wear ... shades[0]

[0]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8qrriKcwvlY

FTFY

Re: Anthropic Is Building a Predictive Surveillance System to Monitor Activists

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Post by slowin »

> “I do agree that the public has a negative view of AI (and that this is a big problem), but I don’t think it is primarily caused by me or any other AI leader warning about AI’s risks,” Anthropic CEO Dario Amodei wrote on Twitter last month. “I think it is fundamentally a crisis of trust … I think that ordinary people don’t trust companies, governments, or the tech industry and always suspect that we are cooking up some new way to screw them over.”

Says the guy creating a pre-crime global surveillance apparatus. Wonder why people don't trust him!

Re: Anthropic Is Building a Predictive Surveillance System to Monitor Activists

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Post by xinayder »

cldellow wrote: post #34

The editorializing in this article is quite something. If I strip out the editorializing, I think the conclusions are: 1. Someone told Claude they had an AR-15 and the CEO of Anthropic was "in their sights". Anthropic reported this to the police. 2. Anthropic contracts with a security agency. 3. Anthropic is looking to build in-house capability for security. Anthropic clearly has high-value targets (see, e.g. the per…

Don't forget the main point that Anthropic reported the user to the police but didn't share any of his messages or conversation history with the cops. Because their security policy doesn't allow it.

Re: Anthropic Is Building a Predictive Surveillance System to Monitor Activists

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Post by SoftTalker »

0c3ca83 wrote: post #17
Analemma_ wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Man, why are you copy-pasting comments from the 90s? The current government is maximally evil and interested in using technology to keep power and crush dissent. You don't need to introduce hypotheticals!

> The current government is maximally evil Wow. That's incredibly optimistic. Imagine, for example, the next 'no kings' protest is met with machine gun fire, rather than ice sporadically killing activists. And then start adding on stuff. Today, the people at the top need people at the bottom to sustain their lifestyle. Put on your billionare sociopath hat for a moment and ask yourself: If AI ever becomes sufficient t…

> why the wealthy are so obsessed with AI

Because they want to be more wealthy, and AI is the draw for investors now.

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