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Re: Muse – Meta’s personal AI agent

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Post by Eisenstein »

anonzzzies wrote: post #503
itemize123 wrote: post #358

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I think you are overestimating things. While there will be people who don't know - it's probably not as many as you think.

Over 90% of humanity and that's probably still underestimating it. Most people cannot point on a map where they live. Many people think 'chat' is conscious and being locked up by evil humans: many think 'chat' is a god or aliens communicating with us. And getting worse as people cannot make a sandwich without asking 'chat', let alone learn anything worthwhile.

The remaining 10% of humanity is still 830 million people.

Re: Muse – Meta’s personal AI agent

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Post by aj0strow »

KaiserPro wrote: post #582
abixb wrote: post #234

I think Meta's strategy is to capture the 'normie-tier' of AI users. I know most of us here on HN track model releases quite frequently and discuss every parameter weight out of them, but most of the world is just... oblivious? I was discussing latest in tech with an accounting friend out of curiosity, and I kept talking about tiers of GPT-5.6 (Sol vs Terra vs Luna) and asked which one she used on the desktop 'Work'…

Former meta prick, sorry employee: > Meta's strategy Meta has no strategy. The people that made llama work left two years ago. MSI are a bunch of charlatans who are trying to change the culutre and tooling of meta from the outside (I can see their point, trying to work outside of the defaults is incredibly hard.) its basically a bun fight, with all of your productive workers being poached by frontier labs, and everyo…

I disagree. The strategy was unclear until now. Spending billions on acquisitions and targeted hires, clearing ranks, playing catch-up on coding and multimodal, open sourcing weak models, the AI girlfriends. It was all very confusing.

It is clear now. Alex and co have refocused Meta on Personal AGI or pAGI. The AI that runs your life. It feels appropriate for a social media company that hosts your photos and group chats. Most users will not pay for pAGI so the tokens need to be cheap. Muse is targeted at intelligence per dollar. Many sites do not offer API access. The marketing is focused on computer usage. Installing software adds friction. It runs securely in the cloud. If this isn't the right AI play for Meta then I don't know what would be.

Re: Muse – Meta’s personal AI agent

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Post by WillyF »

My grocery store's app requires me to "clip" coupons if I want to use them. Instead of clipping just the ones that I need, I would just take 2-3 minutes to tap the clip button repeatedly (as you clip the next coupon moves up into the same spot). Very tedious, but the best way to make sure you don't miss any savings. Today I asked Muse to do it. It was very slow compared to my repetitive tapping, but it clipped every coupon for me after getting my login credentials for the grocery store's website.

Re: Muse – Meta’s personal AI agent

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Post by rsstack »

kachnuv_ocasek wrote: post #551
rpozarickij wrote: post #430

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I've seen people using "chat" to refer to ChatGPT because it's easier/simpler. I'm pretty sure an average person has no idea that chat.com will redirect you to chatgpt.com (or what a redirect is for that matter). It's similar to how people were calling the COVID-19 pandemic or the virus itself "covid".

ChatGPT is commonly referred to as Chappie (チャッピー) in Japan.

I've heard in my home country Geppetto for ChatGPT. I'm not sure if it's still a popular term there.

Re: Muse – Meta’s personal AI agent

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Post by rglullis »

HDThoreaun wrote: post #656
rglullis wrote: post #636

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Does it bother you so much to see people out there who can go on without their lives being shaped by the Corporations?

It bothers me when people have terrible inefficient workflows for no good reason

What you think is "terribly Ineffcient" can be also considered "perfectly acceptable and resilient to systemic shocks".

Hyperfixation on efficiency gains is a disease of modern society.

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Post by tencentshill »

gorgoiler wrote: post #414
weitendorf wrote: post #289

The inline browser the agent uses that you can take control of or watch is awesome! This is something I built a lot of tools to do in the past year (including a similar inline UX/image + click pass through) but having it Just Work in a remote, fully managed client for free is extremely convenient and useful. But… this feels like a UX that won’t last once a significant portion of consumers and purchases adopt it. Eith…

Your example is about helping a consumer navigate a market to get the best product and I think it’s bang on. Too many sectors of the economy sell the lie that they are operating as a free market when in reality they are confusopolies that inflate their margins by being tricking me into buying the worse product. I can’t wait to have an agent navigate and summarize my options for me, so I can choose without having to b…

They very often pull directly from the products marketing copy and have to be told not to trust that by default.

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Post by conradfr »

Grombobulous wrote: post #294

I think the product as shown in this marketing material with these examples falls squarely in the “nobody asked for this” territory of AI. At least with B2B AI there is a problem to be solved: reduce my labor costs and increase my business output. What’s happened here is that consumer technology is already solved, but companies like Meta are trying to jam AI technology into something that solves the non-problems that…

It feels like Alexa / Google Home all over again.

Re: Muse – Meta’s personal AI agent

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Post by fnordpiglet »

I’ve desperately tried to use the Claude work, ChatGPT work, even OpenClaw, and I’ve yet to find a meaningful use of such an assistant. Maybe my life is too boring, but what I see here is a bunch of stuff that makes life more complicated. IF the things I use are well supported here, and IF I have manual repetitive tasks to delegate with them, it feels a bit like taking a nap while using FSD - I don’t trust an LLM to make life decisions for me.

Summarizing FB? Christ I hope not. Paying my bills? Auto pay was like 25 years ago. I’m still staring at the whole ecosystem and shrugging a bit. That it’s offered by Facebook - the “we will never has ads ads are for losers” company promising security and privacy today with a T&C that changes by the metrics wind - is much less compelling than the other offerings that at most I believe they will use my data for training.

But I’m solicitous of use cases - has anyone actually used one of these harnesses to their benefit on some on going basis ?

(Btw I did use Claude work once - I had it shop for my daughters textbooks on a complex UX website that would have required me to tediously do a lot of repetitive tasks, and it sort of did it, over a long period of time - and felt like a perl script could have done it better faster)

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Post by KaiserPro »

aj0strow wrote: post #662
KaiserPro wrote: post #582

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Former meta prick, sorry employee: > Meta's strategy Meta has no strategy. The people that made llama work left two years ago. MSI are a bunch of charlatans who are trying to change the culutre and tooling of meta from the outside (I can see their point, trying to work outside of the defaults is incredibly hard.) its basically a bun fight, with all of your productive workers being poached by frontier labs, and everyo…

I disagree. The strategy was unclear until now. Spending billions on acquisitions and targeted hires, clearing ranks, playing catch-up on coding and multimodal, open sourcing weak models, the AI girlfriends. It was all very confusing. It is clear now. Alex and co have refocused Meta on Personal AGI or pAGI. The AI that runs your life. It feels appropriate for a social media company that hosts your photos and group ch…

>The AI that runs your life

it was always "personal AI", thats why Zuck wants AR so much.

The problem is, before about 2025, there were a bunch of clear systems and procedures that stopped your personal data from being used for dodgy things. For example the browser inside oculus didn't emit any site specific usage metrics. This means that they couldn't use your VR porn habit to target you.

The same with the raybans. There was a perm block on processing user data offsite/outside of meta systems. (which is why we couldn't use FAIRs AWS cluster to do research on research data, because even though it was paid for data, it was still technically 'user' data because it had non-public domain PII [peoples faces, voices and locations in it]) So getting access to any kind of data that came in from raybans was a massive "nope never"

Then we find out that someone convinced Zuck to let people train on private rayban data? and they send it to fucking third party annotators, and new fucking annotators at that. That to me smells like MSL. To get how much of a big fucking deal that is, the original raybans had two cameras, so that FAIR could do some research or other. but because they didn't want to make a separate infra just for research, they couldn't get permission to use any of the data.

Meta had a working always on assistant that could locate, transcribe and recall any thing inside the offices (assuming you wanted to carry a fannypack with a jetson in it) it was always personal.

its now a case of how much shit they can get away with, its not like the FCC are going to audit them anymore.

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Post by xXSLAYERXx »

redox99 wrote: post #282
tikotus wrote: post #259

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I'm a coder and a daily driver of ChatGPT and I don't really know what Sol is or how I can access it. I follow discussions here and know of its excistence, but I can't remember its relation to other models or tiers by heart. What ever the default thing the website is giving me has been good enough for my needs for years.

Do you... code by copy pasting chatgpt web???

I used to do this until February of this year. Never looked back.
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