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Carmakers Have a New Idea to Boost EV Range: Add a Gas Engine

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For people thinking that pure ev + backup generator is more reliable than PHEV, i recommend this video : Nobody understands the point of hybrid cars from Technology Connections

It explains why PHEV is actually a very clever idea and now it simplifies things not complicates them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KnUFH5GX_fI

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#32

"New"? Like hybrids haven't been around forever?

It's new in that it's not really a hybrid. It isn't meant to take over when you run out of battery. It's meant as an emergency recharge for the battery to get you to the next charging station. Hybrids can just run on gas and not have to worry about the distance to the next charging station.

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"New"? Like hybrids haven't been around forever?

It's new in that it's not really a hybrid. It isn't meant to take over when you run out of battery. It's meant as an emergency recharge for the battery to get you to the next charging station. Hybrids can just run on gas and not have to worry about the distance to the next charging station.

That’s a bit of a stretch… most of the announced EREVs are using pretty conventional 4 or even 6-cylinder engines (like the 3.6L Pentastar V6 in the upcoming Jeep Wagoneer REEV). Even though it isn’t connected to the wheels, the engine is capable of keeping the car charged and running normally once the battery runs out. AFAIK, the intention is to be able to drive for hundreds of miles on the engine, not just limp along a dozen or so miles to get to a charger.

Re: Carmakers Have a New Idea to Boost EV Range: Add a Gas Engine

#34

For people thinking that pure ev + backup generator is more reliable than PHEV, i recommend this video : Nobody understands the point of hybrid cars from Technology Connections It explains why PHEV is actually a very clever idea and now it simplifies things not complicates them. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KnUFH5GX_fI

Indeed this. A range extender engine will never be as efficient as hybrid

Re: Carmakers Have a New Idea to Boost EV Range: Add a Gas Engine

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

3rd sentence: It is a fully electric car with the security blanket of a gas-powered generator to charge the battery . So not your average hybrid whos gas-powered motor directly drives the wheels.

You are describing what the Volt was doing back in 2011

Indeed. This headline had me feel like I was taking crazy pills. As far as I can tell, this is in no way, shape or form a "New Idea".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chevrolet_Volt_(first_generati...

Re: Carmakers Have a New Idea to Boost EV Range: Add a Gas Engine

#38
For me anyways, range isn’t the issue.

It’s charging facilities being down far too frequently, whereas gas stations are rarely bone dry.

It’s sites lying about charging port availability, leading to wasted range on red herrings (thanks for lying about NACS chargers, Sheetz!).

It’s the anxiety of not knowing whether a charging area will be safe to hang out in for half an hour, unlike a gas station where you can pump and run pretty quickly if necessary.

The anxiety doesn’t come from a “limited” range (especially when gas vehicles get comparable or worse ranges); it’s the experience surrounding charging itself that needs improvement. One series of service stations offering reliably available charging ports with both plug standards and offering clean bathrooms, hot food, and space to wait in, is what’s needed to soothe “range anxiety”.

Re: Carmakers Have a New Idea to Boost EV Range: Add a Gas Engine

#39
Electric buses in the UK have been charged with diesel generators and there was a bit of an uproar about it at first, but a large static diesel generator running at a constant speed can be more efficient than multiple stop/start diesel engines, and therefore more friendly to the environment.

Usually seen as a stop-gap until they can get the power upgraded in the depot to support multiple charging buses.

Re: Carmakers Have a New Idea to Boost EV Range: Add a Gas Engine

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post #10
post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

3rd sentence: It is a fully electric car with the security blanket of a gas-powered generator to charge the battery . So not your average hybrid whos gas-powered motor directly drives the wheels.

You are describing what the Volt was doing back in 2011

Also the Nazi's Maus tank/armoured vehicle

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panzer_VIII_Maus

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