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Re: Muse – Meta’s personal AI agent

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Post by asim »

mixedCase wrote: post #223

Yeah nah thanks I'm building my own. An agent that knows every bit of my life? Dream come true for data harvesting. It's bad enough what it can infer and sell from the public statements I make in social media and imperceptible metrics I could not fathom.

This is where we're at, and all us devs are taking a crack at building our own. Then some of them take off like OpenClaw or Hermes but I don't find myself particularly drawn to those solutions. Its still very hackerish.

Also the swiss army knife approach feels wrong. Too much choice. It can connect to everything, ok great, so I could chat with it on telegram, discord, email, whatsapp, etc. For a person who comes along and wants to configure great. But for someone who just wants to use it and get a web ui and maybe some sane defaults it's a bit overwhelming. If we can go from super highly configurable does anything to sane defaults with an opinionated interface and its open source we might get somewhere. Not only that but if we can get to like Proton/Notion sort of equivalent alternatives where everything is not controlled by one player that would be good. Proton did mail. Notion did docs. Maybe someone else will do chat.

Re: Muse – Meta’s personal AI agent

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Post by KaiserPro »

abixb wrote: post #234

I think Meta's strategy is to capture the 'normie-tier' of AI users. I know most of us here on HN track model releases quite frequently and discuss every parameter weight out of them, but most of the world is just... oblivious? I was discussing latest in tech with an accounting friend out of curiosity, and I kept talking about tiers of GPT-5.6 (Sol vs Terra vs Luna) and asked which one she used on the desktop 'Work'…

Former meta prick, sorry employee:

> Meta's strategy

Meta has no strategy. The people that made llama work left two years ago. MSI are a bunch of charlatans who are trying to change the culutre and tooling of meta from the outside (I can see their point, trying to work outside of the defaults is incredibly hard.)

its basically a bun fight, with all of your productive workers being poached by frontier labs, and everyone else is either a new grad, burnt out, or a master bullshitter.

Re: Muse – Meta’s personal AI agent

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Post by thinkindie »

abixb wrote: post #234

I think Meta's strategy is to capture the 'normie-tier' of AI users. I know most of us here on HN track model releases quite frequently and discuss every parameter weight out of them, but most of the world is just... oblivious? I was discussing latest in tech with an accounting friend out of curiosity, and I kept talking about tiers of GPT-5.6 (Sol vs Terra vs Luna) and asked which one she used on the desktop 'Work'…

in a way it's not much different from a time where the E icon of internet explorer was considered "the internet".

Re: Muse – Meta’s personal AI agent

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Post by Gareth321 »

weitendorf wrote: post #289

The inline browser the agent uses that you can take control of or watch is awesome! This is something I built a lot of tools to do in the past year (including a similar inline UX/image + click pass through) but having it Just Work in a remote, fully managed client for free is extremely convenient and useful. But… this feels like a UX that won’t last once a significant portion of consumers and purchases adopt it. Eith…

> But now every consumer in the world can just ask a question or say “check all these prices and sites for a thing I want” and go do something else, right out of the box for free, and have thousands of page loads and site interactions fire off for them.

> Bypassing the branding/marketing funnels or intended UX (cf. vc twitter abusing resy thru instinct) of sites, through some kind of proxy client amplifying the traffic a human would create, with the ability to let anybody scrape or interact directly with a site’s backend… definitely a consumer win, but seems unsustainable.

I think this is a foregone conclusions. Traditional internet marketing is dead - including funnels and dark patterns.

Re: Muse – Meta’s personal AI agent

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Post by noir_lord »

Gareth321 wrote: post #579
esskay wrote: post #557

I cant help feeling you'd have to be a special kind of stupid at this point to start feeding even more of your life into Meta. This is clearly aimed at the over 50's - their primary market on facebook.

Billions of people use Facebook regularly. It's a tiny minority of us who would not use a useful product because of privacy concerns. I think you are wrong. It's not they who are a "special kind of stupid." It is us who are a "special kind of paranoid." Justifiably so, I would contend.

Special kind of stupid was indeed unduly harsh but I think you could make the case "A special kind of unaware", Meta has frequently been in the news for many of the sketchy things they've done (most recently the big fine for harming kids).

That said the presumption on my part there is that most people read the news widely and based on conversations with the people I meet in life that may well not be the case.

Re: Muse – Meta’s personal AI agent

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Post by greenchair »

rconti wrote: post #409
abixb wrote: post #234

I think Meta's strategy is to capture the 'normie-tier' of AI users. I know most of us here on HN track model releases quite frequently and discuss every parameter weight out of them, but most of the world is just... oblivious? I was discussing latest in tech with an accounting friend out of curiosity, and I kept talking about tiers of GPT-5.6 (Sol vs Terra vs Luna) and asked which one she used on the desktop 'Work'…

I use claude all day every day, and sometimes codex, and I still don't change models. I guess I'm more interested in accomplishing the thing than in experimenting with a dozen ways of accomplishing the same thing.

most people are not on the unlimited plan and can't use it all day every day for complex work which is one reason they are forced to learn about the options available and optimize their workflows.

Re: Muse – Meta’s personal AI agent

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Post by Gareth321 »

noir_lord wrote: post #585
Gareth321 wrote: post #579

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Billions of people use Facebook regularly. It's a tiny minority of us who would not use a useful product because of privacy concerns. I think you are wrong. It's not they who are a "special kind of stupid." It is us who are a "special kind of paranoid." Justifiably so, I would contend.

Special kind of stupid was indeed unduly harsh but I think you could make the case "A special kind of unaware", Meta has frequently been in the news for many of the sketchy things they've done (most recently the big fine for harming kids). That said the presumption on my part there is that most people read the news widely and based on conversations with the people I meet in life that may well not be the case.

Honestly, I think most people just don't care as much about privacy as you and I. I have many friends who are perfectly aware of all of the security and privacy concerns re Facebook, and continue to use it because they just don't care. Or at least, the value they derive is worth far more than how much they care about privacy.

It's easy to slip into the mindset of "if only I could enlighten these unwashed masses, they'd see how right I am!" I think the bottom line is that sometimes people just have different values.

Re: Muse – Meta’s personal AI agent

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Post by jatins »

abixb wrote: post #234

I think Meta's strategy is to capture the 'normie-tier' of AI users. I know most of us here on HN track model releases quite frequently and discuss every parameter weight out of them, but most of the world is just... oblivious? I was discussing latest in tech with an accounting friend out of curiosity, and I kept talking about tiers of GPT-5.6 (Sol vs Terra vs Luna) and asked which one she used on the desktop 'Work'…

Given that cost of building is down, strategy of most companies is turning into "do everything" and see what sticks

Re: Muse – Meta’s personal AI agent

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Post by litmus-pit-git »

postatic wrote: post #532

The initial reaction is "why on earth would I give Facebook MORE of my data, no way" but as some commenters said, this would be a great tool to use to see if it can automate some of the tools that I have not been able to automate (e.g. Facebook most of all!)

If it will help me search (or rather "comb") through rental posts on the trillions Facebook groups (that Facebook spent years making in unsearchable sanely) I have to subscribe to (just for my city) and make it even 10% better for me, I might as well pay a bit for this tool. Why? Because I like it or hate it - that's where the rental posts live (and very little elsewhere - and even those are on Facebook).
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