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Re: Flock worker calls police on investigator filming public camera installation

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Post by FireBeyond »

ButlerianJihad wrote: post #5
FireBeyond wrote: post #4

I despise Flock. Have had plenty to say. But I suspect -this- was the reason, moreso than the filming the installation: > As Keefe began to shoot video, the installer saw him and immediately packed up his equipment and drove away, so Keefe also returned to his car and followed several cars behind, hoping to document the next stop. Not to say the installer wouldn't have anyway, but it's not inherently unreasonable to…

> call 911 It is unreasonable, because 911 is for emergencies where life or property is imminently threatened. If you believe someone is watching and following you, then you can call the non-emergency number. Or your mom.

I was a paramedic/firefighter for 14 years. I think while there's merit in calling out people jumping at shadows, I do get how this situation, stupidly, escalated.

And there's a bit more to EMS than "imminent life threats only".

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Post by FireBeyond »

cpburns2009 wrote: post #7
ButlerianJihad wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> call 911 It is unreasonable, because 911 is for emergencies where life or property is imminently threatened. If you believe someone is watching and following you, then you can call the non-emergency number. Or your mom.

This is actually something I've wondered about. What is the non-emergency number?

The one thing you can do is call 911 and when they respond, just say "I need the non-emergency line" and they'll usually transfer you immediately or just check quickly with you. Just don't waffle on.

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Post by 1659447091 »

cpburns2009 wrote: post #7
ButlerianJihad wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> call 911 It is unreasonable, because 911 is for emergencies where life or property is imminently threatened. If you believe someone is watching and following you, then you can call the non-emergency number. Or your mom.

This is actually something I've wondered about. What is the non-emergency number?

In the USA its 311

https://www.fcc.gov/consumers/guides/nationally-assigned-3-d...

Re: Flock worker calls police on investigator filming public camera installation

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Post by ButlerianJihad »

1659447091 wrote: post #13
cpburns2009 wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is actually something I've wondered about. What is the non-emergency number?

In the USA its 311 https://www.fcc.gov/consumers/guides/nationally-assigned-3-d...

311 does not reach law enforcement. 311 is the number to complain about code violations or request routine maintenance from the municipal government. The types of requests that go through City Hall during office hours.

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Post by 1659447091 »

ButlerianJihad wrote: post #14
1659447091 wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In the USA its 311 https://www.fcc.gov/consumers/guides/nationally-assigned-3-d...

311 does not reach law enforcement. 311 is the number to complain about code violations or request routine maintenance from the municipal government. The types of requests that go through City Hall during office hours.

They can give the location of the nearest police or fire station, for some non-emergancy law enforcement issues they will put you through to the county sheriff. Had a friend call over a property dispute with their roommate and they got and sent a sheriff over (within a city that had its own municipal police force)

Re: Flock worker calls police on investigator filming public camera installation

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Post by nielsbot »

FTA:

> “I work with Flock Safety. And I called originally because I’m getting followed,” the installer can be heard telling a dispatcher in the recording of the call obtained by Atlanta News First Investigates. “I was getting harassed, pretty much. Taking videos and pictures. And now, the same vehicle that pulled over where I was working at has been following me.”

…the irony

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Post by dlcarrier »

dghlsakjg wrote: post #9
cpburns2009 wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is actually something I've wondered about. What is the non-emergency number?

It’s just a regular phone number, so it depends what department you are trying to call. Google or a phone book is what you need.

It's usually on the web page of the local police or sheriff department.

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Post by dlcarrier »

FireBeyond wrote: post #11
ButlerianJihad wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> call 911 It is unreasonable, because 911 is for emergencies where life or property is imminently threatened. If you believe someone is watching and following you, then you can call the non-emergency number. Or your mom.

I was a paramedic/firefighter for 14 years. I think while there's merit in calling out people jumping at shadows, I do get how this situation, stupidly, escalated. And there's a bit more to EMS than "imminent life threats only".

Property damage is often explicitly listed by municipalities as a reason to call 911. They might not care in New York or San Francisco, but in most small towns they usually try to catch vandals in the act.

Re: Flock worker calls police on investigator filming public camera installation

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Post by kotaKat »

> “Why can’t the person opt out? It’s because if your car gets stolen, if something were to happen, moreover, the government requires you to have a license plate. It’s the law. And it’s plain view information,” [Flock Safety’s Chief Communications Officer Josh ] Thomas said. “Your license plate is part of the plain view. And so why can’t you opt out. You can, if you want to opt out of society.”

Unless you're part of the Karen HOAs that buy them - then you can be part of the community SafeList!

https://www.flocksafety.com/blog/how-the-safe-list-solves-pr...

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