Another side of this, which I can think of, is that even a skilled person feels they are not skilled enough. I might be able to see the sky right now, but what if I am not the man standing outside and I am that ant for whom the sky is like this?
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#22That’s the gap between a skilled AI user and everyone else. Take a non-technical marketing person and someone fluent in agents and tool use. The agent-fluent person can watch the marketer work for an hour and immediately see a dozen things to automate, delegate, or reinvent, including things the marketer hasn’t even tried yet. But put the most intelligent tool in the world in front of the marketer, and they’re starin…
The author seems to describe a person who doesn't know the specific tool we're talking about, but this is no way exclusive to AI. Life is filled with people doing things the "non-optimal" way, or missing huge shortcuts to better quality with less work, and similar stuff, it's all over the place once you start looking for it.
> Most of them hang out at r/BetterOffline.
Top submission right now: "Anthropic science lead: There's a >10% chance our product will kill all humans"
Is there any subreddit/forum/community that kind of sits in-between all these extremes? You either have LocalLlama which is astroturfed by all the AI labs and individuals singing the praise of Q2 quant of Qwen 3.8 27B, or places like BetterOffline which contains hyperbole the other way. Is there really no community that is at least pretending to be level-headed about all this stuff?
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#23that's super true, it;s very hard for non-tech people to use ai at its peak power
It's hard even for a lot of tech people to use AI at its peak power. Many of the programmers I know are not using it nearly as much as they could.
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#24I was trying to teach a co-worker some agentic stuff today, and this is totally true. Especially if they are using gimpy tools like Github Copilot. The harness matters. None of my super-powered CLI + skills stuff worked like how it does in a more powerful harness like Codex or Claude Code. Try telling someone to imagine it could do something amazing, if they switch to a completely different tool.
Same when sometimes you talk about AI with people and they say ChatGPT is absolutely horrible, gets everything wrong and never can keep track of more than 3-4 messages and so on.
Then it turns out they were on the free logged-out version, writing the most obtuse, confusing and contradictory prompts, and they're trying to do "real work" like this.
We're all having very different experiences with AI right now, and when people talk to each other about it, we're not nearly specifying what environment, tools, weights, etc are used, for these discussions to actually be valuable, because people are comparing apples to oranges everywhere.
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#25That’s the gap between a skilled AI user and everyone else. Take a non-technical marketing person and someone fluent in agents and tool use. The agent-fluent person can watch the marketer work for an hour and immediately see a dozen things to automate, delegate, or reinvent, including things the marketer hasn’t even tried yet. But put the most intelligent tool in the world in front of the marketer, and they’re starin…
The author seems to describe a person who doesn't know the specific tool we're talking about, but this is no way exclusive to AI. Life is filled with people doing things the "non-optimal" way, or missing huge shortcuts to better quality with less work, and similar stuff, it's all over the place once you start looking for it. > Most of them hang out at r/BetterOffline. Top submission right now: "Anthropic science lead…
The simple ctrl+C ctrl+V, for example.
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#26year 3 of AI taking our jobs in the next 6 months
thanks for not changing, humans
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#27The biggest problem with “AI” is that big corps are shoving it down our throats. AI has existed since nearly invention of computing, notorious example are video games, but no one marketed them with AI, why? because that was not the point, and besides, today’s AI is overloaded term, they are represented as if they are capable of starting new war, but in reality they are repeating the same stuff over and over again the…
> In most cases you don’t even need them.
Correct. It's like believing in a particular religion, or having a certain fashion sense. When I was younger, I had a particularly handsome friend who spent as much time as possible half-naked, and he was happier than me and didn't have a religion, a fashion sense, and definitely not a need for AI. Had the world listened to my wishes, my friend would have stayed young and carefree forever. Instead, all I could do was to convince my friend to get into college so that he didn't have to sell his labor harvesting rice by hand, under the sun of Central America. Later in his career, he used AI to have to clock less time at work and have more leisure time; though I forever regret he didn't stay young and carefree.
> In some cases they give quite inaccurate answer with high confidence.
Meanwhile, I studied computer sciences, worked many technical jobs, and even got a PhD on the matter. Just yesterday, at my request, an AI re-created a piece of code that I have been able to create in the past. It took it 20 minutes; it took me much longer to exactly imagine what I wanted. It would have taken me a week had I implemented the thing by hand, if I had managed, because I still have to spend my days in this world working a senseless job so that I can pay for food and a roof. All the while I keep thinking that I would boil the oceans to keep my friend young and carefree forever. He died of cancer this year.
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#28Corporate mandates, the most pervasive advertising campaigns one can imagine, and so on; yeah, discoverability...
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#29Hilariously, there is no substitute for intelligence, not even another intelligence.
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#30Can you not just tell them: Imagine you are chatting with a very knowledgable person who knows answers to most questions, and can do many computer-related things for you ?