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Re: Muse – Meta’s personal AI agent

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Post by KronisLV »

abixb wrote: post #234

I think Meta's strategy is to capture the 'normie-tier' of AI users. I know most of us here on HN track model releases quite frequently and discuss every parameter weight out of them, but most of the world is just... oblivious? I was discussing latest in tech with an accounting friend out of curiosity, and I kept talking about tiers of GPT-5.6 (Sol vs Terra vs Luna) and asked which one she used on the desktop 'Work'…

> I think Meta's strategy is to capture the 'normie-tier' of AI users.

For what it's worth, maybe that would help people who struggle with technology in general? Because as far as UI/UX goes, a chat interface for an agent is about as easy as it gets (not every site having its own crappy assistant that can't really do anything useful for you, but is slapped on there for the sake of a checkbox).

I watched the marketing video and to me it seemed pretty nice and practical for the average person.

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Post by flaburgan »

ajkjk wrote: post #470
IshKebab wrote: post #452

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Surely the way streamers talk to "chat"? I've never heard anyone call ChatGPT "chat".

No, there are people who will say "ask Chat to explain it to you" in reference to ChatGPT.

All the people younger than 28yo in France, for sure.

Re: Muse – Meta’s personal AI agent

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Post by meowtimemania »

wiradikusuma wrote: post #22

From the demo, it seems towards "buy buy buy", but I'm cheap, I always compare prices, even for repeat items (who knows, another seller might happen to be cheaper now?). Maybe I'm in the minority?

I asked it to by me concert tickets, it suggested ticket master for 90$ each, I asked it to find cheaper tickets and found something else 70$ each — I found it really convenient.

I asked it to check once a day for the next week and notify me of any price changes

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Post by eloisant »

sroerick wrote: post #12

Facebook is the first to market with a polished openclaw? Good for them. I'm sure many others will criticize other aspects of Meta, and rightly so. But imagine using a Claw agent with zero tech support available

They have been leading research on AI until ChatGPT was released.

They had the FAIR, and Yann Le Cun.

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Post by taurath »

gorgoiler wrote: post #414
weitendorf wrote: post #289

The inline browser the agent uses that you can take control of or watch is awesome! This is something I built a lot of tools to do in the past year (including a similar inline UX/image + click pass through) but having it Just Work in a remote, fully managed client for free is extremely convenient and useful. But… this feels like a UX that won’t last once a significant portion of consumers and purchases adopt it. Eith…

Your example is about helping a consumer navigate a market to get the best product and I think it’s bang on. Too many sectors of the economy sell the lie that they are operating as a free market when in reality they are confusopolies that inflate their margins by being tricking me into buying the worse product. I can’t wait to have an agent navigate and summarize my options for me, so I can choose without having to b…

> I can’t wait to have an agent navigate and summarize my options for me

You must gave no idea how susceptible agents are to marketing! I used agents in conjunction to my own research on a niche item lately and while it was helpful for showing some things I hadn’t considered it was dead wrong, frequently about a lot of stuff. But by all means, give up more control

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Post by lxgr »

bossyTeacher wrote: post #200
lxgr wrote: post #183

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Sure, but so is every security researcher in the world if they want to be, and they only need to get caught shipping exfiltration logic once.

> so is every security researcher in the world if they want to be Most security researchers lack Meta's history: - Testing emotional manipulation features on thousands of users non-consensually - Adding spyware on underage users - Intercept a rival app's traffic - Allowing harm to teen mental health And most importantly, most security researchers lack the money and power to fend off the legal consequences of these ac…

> Most security researchers lack Meta's history: [...]

Why would you assume that security researchers don't know about these? If anything, wouldn't all the bad press and scandals make WhatsApp a more likely target of scrutiny?

> And most importantly, most security researchers lack the money and power to fend off the legal consequences of these acts.

Yes, security research is generally expensive, but do you have any evidence for Meta taking legal steps against it and making it actively harder? I remember e.g. the controversy around WhatsApp re-encrypting unconfirmed outbound messages to a new key; this was revealed by security researchers and widely discussed. (Not that they're making it easier by providing source code for WhatsApp's cryptography or a debug interface to validate what's actually going on in the client, but neither does e.g. iMessage.)

In fact, there's a relatively absurd lawsuit against Meta on WhatsApp encryption going on right now, and these claims are widely being repeated all over social media.

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taurath wrote: post #546
gorgoiler wrote: post #414

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Your example is about helping a consumer navigate a market to get the best product and I think it’s bang on. Too many sectors of the economy sell the lie that they are operating as a free market when in reality they are confusopolies that inflate their margins by being tricking me into buying the worse product. I can’t wait to have an agent navigate and summarize my options for me, so I can choose without having to b…

> I can’t wait to have an agent navigate and summarize my options for me You must gave no idea how susceptible agents are to marketing! I used agents in conjunction to my own research on a niche item lately and while it was helpful for showing some things I hadn’t considered it was dead wrong, frequently about a lot of stuff. But by all means, give up more control

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Re: Muse – Meta’s personal AI agent

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Post by jcgl »

lxgr wrote: post #179
jcgl wrote: post #174

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WhatsApp is E2EE, but Meta controls both ends. Instead of reading your plaintext on the server, they read it on the client. Not that tricky. I presume the hardest part would be avoiding detection via decompilation and other reverse engineering techniques. Not familiar with that space (can anyone here shed some light?), but it seems likely that an entity with Meta’s resources would be able to figure that out. E2EE pro…

They only need to get caught doing it once to have a gigantic lawsuit on their hands. They could possibly pull it off very selectively, but doing it in a dragnet fashion seems incredibly risky.

What grounds would the lawsuit be based on? I can’t imagine that slurping any kind of data would be inconsistent with their EULA.

The only risk would be the reputational damage. And as far as their bottom line is concerned, the impact of that would be negligible—how many of WhatsApp’s billion(?) users know that it’s supposed to be E2EE, let alone are under the illusion that Meta doesn’t have access to their data?

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