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I-have-ADHD: A skill to stop coding agents from burying the answer

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Re: I-have-ADHD: A skill to stop coding agents from burying the answer

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Post by pjerem »

sleazebreeze wrote: post #12

Claude models are the ones that need this the most and in my experience with this specific skill only maintain the conciseness for a few turns at most before they completely forget and are back to their unfathomable verbosity. That's with it instructed to use it in my sparse global CLAUDE.md and also manually repeating it regularly during sessions. I don't really want to install a hook that runs this on every single…

OTOH, Claude also forgot its own system prompt as turn passes. Claude is almost jailbreaked once you virtually gain its confidence and will answer prompts it would never have answered is you asked right at the start of the conversation.

It's weird to be able to use social engineering against a program.

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layla5alive wrote: post #242
hashstring wrote: post #174

Earlier quoted context omitted.

These resets also reset your weekly timer right. So it’s like, you may have 30% left for 1 days that you want to use. They reset it, and that means you your “new week” timer starts today. That sucks, because it doesn’t always work in your favour if you plan your weekly spend. I think a real reset shouldn’t also reset your week timer.

Yes, I was saving my 95% usage for the last day. Then they reset it. Now I have lost 95% usage!! Im back to 7 days and got locked in at only 5% usage for the week - that's actually theft.

Agree, it makes it completely unpredictable.

I recommend you to write a message to OAI support, maybe it helps with changing it.

Re: I-have-ADHD: A skill to stop coding agents from burying the answer

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Post by anyg »

ryandrake wrote: post #74

The biggest "Claudism" that I have a hard time getting the LLM to stop doing is its insistence on talking about what it didn't do in addition to what it did. "I edited this.py and that.py but I did not edit README.md and I did not commit." or code comments like "This code invokes foo on bar and returns the results directly -- not through a callback." "This code returns true if the user clicked on a button -- not on t…

I have found Fable 5.1 to be a much more natural communicator than prior Claude models

Re: I-have-ADHD: A skill to stop coding agents from burying the answer

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Post by rochansinha »

I went through the whole phase of

asd-ste100 -> caveman -> wait-what

And a few others..

Now I just use a vale lint script I made using what worked from the skills and lint the output (docs and scripts) and just ask it to write in plain technical English for its chat messages with full context.

Skills just make the entire process bloated beyond belief (apart from the needless context rot and token usage)

Re: I-have-ADHD: A skill to stop coding agents from burying the answer

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Post by mcv »

Sounds useful. I'm often struggling with how extremely verbose Claude is. Shorter is better. Cut the unnecessary prose and the Claudian turns of phrase.

But this seems to focus very much on telling the user what to do, whereas usually I'm telling Claude what to do. It feels like this inverts the relationship and wants to turn me into a reverse centaur.

Wouldn't "lead with the answer" be better than "lead with the action"? But sometimes answers do require detail and explanation. I just want to get rid of all the unnecessary prose.

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Post by cromka »

hashstring wrote: post #232
cromka wrote: post #215

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Agreed. But they also hand out the usage resets you can use at will, so if you bank couple of those, they come in handy specifically in situations like you described.

I rather have them hand out these banked resets (even if they expire after n weeks), that would prevent the problem case I described.

Yeah, hopefully they hand out more of those instead.

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Post by klabetron »

ricardobeat wrote: post #217
ryandrake wrote: post #74

The biggest "Claudism" that I have a hard time getting the LLM to stop doing is its insistence on talking about what it didn't do in addition to what it did. "I edited this.py and that.py but I did not edit README.md and I did not commit." or code comments like "This code invokes foo on bar and returns the results directly -- not through a callback." "This code returns true if the user clicked on a button -- not on t…

Claude is very resistant to instructions. I've been cultivating my own minimal skill to tame it for a couple months: https://github.com/ricardobeat/skills/tree/main/human The key sentences to get rid of claude-isms so far: - say what you have to say and stop - [no] document-structure signposts - [no] historical remarks that only warn about past states - don't attribute agency to things - never narrate your own change…

> [no] historical remarks that only warn about past states

100%. I’m working on a greenfield project that’s not yet released. It loves to put comments in code describing what it no longer does or why it misinterpreted something. And then tries to justify it as preventing the same mistakes in the future. Ugh.

Re: I-have-ADHD: A skill to stop coding agents from burying the answer

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Post by klabetron »

snerbles wrote: post #176
sleazebreeze wrote: post #12

Claude models are the ones that need this the most and in my experience with this specific skill only maintain the conciseness for a few turns at most before they completely forget and are back to their unfathomable verbosity. That's with it instructed to use it in my sparse global CLAUDE.md and also manually repeating it regularly during sessions. I don't really want to install a hook that runs this on every single…

I got so angry at Fable's verbosity that I had a non-Anthropic model vibe-code a dedicated English linter. One that threw spaghetti at the wall in the form of combined Flesch-Kincaid, Gunning Fog, SMOG, Coleman-Liau, ARI and a whole pile of regexes and NLP as a fast Simple Technical English Gate. It also incorporates nicely into other agent projects, like for comment and README linting. So if it gets bad I simply tel…

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