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Re: My business partner sent a 5K vibe-coded PR that he didn't even test

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OP and long time lurker here, I'm desperate and looking for honest-to-god advice on what to do. I am one of those neurodivergent people who loves programming because it gives me the right stimulation. I also enjoy drawing, gardening, and exercise. I don't own a car because I love walking, and such. So I'm wondering if it's time to call it quits with programming (for a living). Luckily I have some savings and I have o…

Just find a better place to go. If you have savings, quit this nonsense and start looking for something else while working on yourself. I just got back to working on a project I like where we don't use any LLMs for code generation because we think it kind of sucks and leads to bad results unless it's for incredibly small contexts (which is usually not worth the prompting). You're also not as alone as you think in act…

Damn, would love to work somewhere where no LLMs are needed. I have a friend working for Nintendo stuff (I think he does something for their secondary software, IE sales) and he is not allowed to use LLMs. Happiest man on earth.

If I were in the States, where I have connections, people would hire me easily. But for my wife and kids, it's not really possible to emmigrate.

Remote is crazy. I heard from a friend who got 100s of applications on a remote job on a single day.

Re: My business partner sent a 5K vibe-coded PR that he didn't even test

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OP and long time lurker here, I'm desperate and looking for honest-to-god advice on what to do. I am one of those neurodivergent people who loves programming because it gives me the right stimulation. I also enjoy drawing, gardening, and exercise. I don't own a car because I love walking, and such. So I'm wondering if it's time to call it quits with programming (for a living). Luckily I have some savings and I have o…

Why not become a machine gun operator?

because some of us have some dignity (and savings) left. That's really just what it is. If I lie to my wife I can't sleep at night.

I almost sold my soul to the devil doing AI assisted coding review for top dollar. That night I almost cried in my sleep

Re: My business partner sent a 5K vibe-coded PR that he didn't even test

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> who loves programming because it gives me the right stimulation A small (and a bit tangential) personal story: I thought I am one of those people who care about the result, more then about the process. But, I've recently played a game called "The Farmer Was Replaced" that someone mentioned in the comments in one of the posts here, on HN. The game is basically a farming sim, except you farm by programming a drone us…

I booted my MiSTer into TI-99/4A mode a week or so ago and started writing little programs in TI BASIC. TI BASIC sucked. It was slow, due to being written in a form of bytecode which had to be interpreted (and it would in turn interpret your program). And you couldn't do sprites, not without getting the Extended BASIC cart. But HOLY SHIT THE DOPAMINE RUSH. Just crafting things and making them appear on the screen wit…

EXACTLY! The dopamine we get from doing stuff with mostly our own hands is unbelievable. But social media, junk food, and adult content should have taught us that cheap dopamine is addictive and dangerous.

Most of us will learn the hard way (or never learn)

Re: My business partner sent a 5K vibe-coded PR that he didn't even test

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OP and long time lurker here, I'm desperate and looking for honest-to-god advice on what to do. I am one of those neurodivergent people who loves programming because it gives me the right stimulation. I also enjoy drawing, gardening, and exercise. I don't own a car because I love walking, and such. So I'm wondering if it's time to call it quits with programming (for a living). Luckily I have some savings and I have o…

I’ve been on a sabbatical for 99% of this year, small pockets of time spent doing some maintenance for clients I love. I bought a seriously derelict property in country Australia and am having a good time slowly fixing it up. I’ll get back to programming next year, hopefully the blow-ins have moved on to the next hype cycle by that time.

Hey great for you!

I've been on a 3 year sabbatical, and I spend most summers in the countryside with my kids, grilling meat, planting berries, going in nature for hours-long walks.

It's really a great life ain't it?

So you're planning to go back for work? I'm unfortunately on my last 12-months or so of runway so time to figure out stuff.

Re: My business partner sent a 5K vibe-coded PR that he didn't even test

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OP and long time lurker here, I'm desperate and looking for honest-to-god advice on what to do. I am one of those neurodivergent people who loves programming because it gives me the right stimulation. I also enjoy drawing, gardening, and exercise. I don't own a car because I love walking, and such. So I'm wondering if it's time to call it quits with programming (for a living). Luckily I have some savings and I have o…

I think AI is not really the subject. You probably chose a bad partner. As for quitting, since you mentioned gardening: "C’est une folie de haïr toutes les roses parce qu’une épine vous a piqué."

One thorn?

I already lived under a cave but did you see the amount of money and hype pushed into AI? Just look at YC, 90% AI, just like it was crypto back then.

Jensen Huang saying we have AGI.

One thorn I can handle. A field full of slugs and nettles with billions of dollars to burn I'm not so sure

Re: My business partner sent a 5K vibe-coded PR that he didn't even test

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OP and long time lurker here, I'm desperate and looking for honest-to-god advice on what to do. I am one of those neurodivergent people who loves programming because it gives me the right stimulation. I also enjoy drawing, gardening, and exercise. I don't own a car because I love walking, and such. So I'm wondering if it's time to call it quits with programming (for a living). Luckily I have some savings and I have o…

> who loves programming because it gives me the right stimulation A small (and a bit tangential) personal story: I thought I am one of those people who care about the result, more then about the process. But, I've recently played a game called "The Farmer Was Replaced" that someone mentioned in the comments in one of the posts here, on HN. The game is basically a farming sim, except you farm by programming a drone us…

good you realized that, but you do mention an interesting approach:

Most of my friends would use cheat codes to beat games.

Me and my brother (who's a crazy amazing artist btw) would instead figure out how to get good enough in a game to not lose a single life.

Contra, Ninja Gaiden, Mario.

I could see that the amount of fulfillment we got was 100 times more than my friends who played the game like that and didn't struggle.

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OP and long time lurker here, I'm desperate and looking for honest-to-god advice on what to do. I am one of those neurodivergent people who loves programming because it gives me the right stimulation. I also enjoy drawing, gardening, and exercise. I don't own a car because I love walking, and such. So I'm wondering if it's time to call it quits with programming (for a living). Luckily I have some savings and I have o…

I called it quits about 8 years ago (I'm 55), mostly due to the fact that I couldn't get excited about anyone's "next big thing". Got into teaching, which was a new, rewarding skill to work on mastering. (I've still got a long way to go--what a challenging field!) But of course I am teaching CS, and now it's just a nightmare of trying to figure out how to teach it. We have a lot of people saying we still need to teac…

Hey beej71, I'm 41 and I love advice from people with more life experience than me.

I also love teaching (not particularly great at it, but not the worst) and taught SALSA dancing for a few years. The money was okayish (enough for myself but not to feed my children) but I LOVED being around ppl.

I wasn't talented in dancing but my talent in programming really made me happy (and well paid), so that kind of sucks. Definitely same as you, I'd even say programming can be my 90% of joy and effort (in a bad way sometimes, but I manage to talk myself into dialing it down)

I can't imagine the hell teachers are going through, especially coding, with AI.

Luckily I have a lot of weird interests and some can pay well (for example, I've had a decent success teaching people how to lose weight doing intermittent fasting, imagine the randomness of my interests)

What is your next plan?

I wasn't joking on becoming a yoga teacher, as cliché as it sounds, because I did it and quite successfully so (I was young, handsome, and single back then, and my classes were PACKED. I'm still handsome but the other two are gone. People paid cash so I had a lot of bills in my home lol)

Re: My business partner sent a 5K vibe-coded PR that he didn't even test

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OP and long time lurker here, I'm desperate and looking for honest-to-god advice on what to do. I am one of those neurodivergent people who loves programming because it gives me the right stimulation. I also enjoy drawing, gardening, and exercise. I don't own a car because I love walking, and such. So I'm wondering if it's time to call it quits with programming (for a living). Luckily I have some savings and I have o…

I also really enjoy programming, and relate to your comment below about sometimes waking up in the middle of the night because your brain figured out how to code a hard problem. Sorry to hear you're having a rough time with work. I do think AI availability has made otherwise smart people put out lazy work. But I also think that there are more people who still "code by hand" than you think. You might find some joy by…

Thanks for the recommendation, I in fact couldn't sleep past 5am today and woke up to check an SQLite presentation on that channel. Pure gold!

I think that's how it is, we just gotta fine-tune the algorithms on our favor. I'm doing it slowly with Youtube (I'm into rock climbing recently, and it's been a fun ride on YT). My Twitter feed can actually be pretty amazing, even my IG one. I don't check them much often any more but they're still pretty good. No BS.

The trick is not to fall for the stupid videos with millions of views. I just recently learned about Mukbang or something like that (a weird trend where people binge eat on YT). Crazy

Re: My business partner sent a 5K vibe-coded PR that he didn't even test

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OP and long time lurker here, I'm desperate and looking for honest-to-god advice on what to do. I am one of those neurodivergent people who loves programming because it gives me the right stimulation. I also enjoy drawing, gardening, and exercise. I don't own a car because I love walking, and such. So I'm wondering if it's time to call it quits with programming (for a living). Luckily I have some savings and I have o…

You are far from alone on that path and indeed I also wonder if it may be time to let it go.

yeah, I've seen plenty of people like us.

What I'm sad about is when others call us out for being a ludite or so.

But now I understand that these people don't understand that some of us just love programming.

I mean if I say I love gardening, nobody is going to tell me "Oh you're a stupid ludite, just buy a tractor and glyphosate"

Or when I mention my love for long walks in nature, imagine somebody telling you "that's so inefficient why don't you buy a segway, you'll be able to explore 10x the number of places without wasting any effort and time"

Re: My business partner sent a 5K vibe-coded PR that he didn't even test

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No it's absolutely not time to let go. You are one of a limited set of people with pre-AI taste and intuition for good software. They aren't making any more of them. And you'll be a super valuable asset anywhere you go. I mean, if you want to retire go ahead, but don't do it because of AI. AI is just a tool to generate code faster. It doesn't replace the work of actually making design decisions and knowing what will…

Look at the COBOL devs. They are been called in their retirement years. You don't want that to be you. Life is short

my uncle is 70+ years old and he's one of those haha

I saw him starting at a monitor at midnight, back all hunched up and thought "nope, not what I envision"

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