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Nathan Fielder's Elizabeth Holmes Doc Met with Shock and Awe at Secret Screening

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Re: Nathan Fielder's Elizabeth Holmes Doc Met with Shock and Awe at Secret Screening

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Her lackey got more prison time than she did, even though he was following her orders.

even though he was following her orders. I guess you missed World War II, and the trials that followed. "Following orders" isn't an excuse for anything.

It's not an excuse, but we hanged the guys giving the orders, too.

Re: Nathan Fielder's Elizabeth Holmes Doc Met with Shock and Awe at Secret Screening

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I haven't been able to get a clear answer to my question about Theranos: Was what she offered obviously impossible? That's my understanding. Blood is not homogeneous so it is physically impossible to get an accurate full blood panel from a single drop. Was there every any plan to address this or was it clearly a 100% fictitious product from the get-go? Did any journalist ever ask her or any scientist at Theranos abou…

I believe I read something about this film featuring a moment where Nathan insists that since she's innocent that they must go to the back yard to confirm how this machine works. Or something along those lines - in any case the absurdity of "I totally believe you, let me help you prove them wrong".

What I'm reminded of is that documentary The Jinx which basically takes you along for the ride until the subject accidentally confesses. Documentary filmmaking is so weird - there is always the element of fiction and make believe that somehow manages to get at the truth

Re: Nathan Fielder's Elizabeth Holmes Doc Met with Shock and Awe at Secret Screening

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I haven't been able to get a clear answer to my question about Theranos: Was what she offered obviously impossible? That's my understanding. Blood is not homogeneous so it is physically impossible to get an accurate full blood panel from a single drop. Was there every any plan to address this or was it clearly a 100% fictitious product from the get-go? Did any journalist ever ask her or any scientist at Theranos abou…

A mix of needing a paycheck, "fake it till you make it" and psychopathy.

Re: Nathan Fielder's Elizabeth Holmes Doc Met with Shock and Awe at Secret Screening

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She's not mythical. She's a female psychopath and that characteristic is fascinating for many people.

Her incredibly low-rate of eye blinks is extremely off-putting/disturbing for me. Anyone else get the same vibe?

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Re: Nathan Fielder's Elizabeth Holmes Doc Met with Shock and Awe at Secret Screening

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I haven't been able to get a clear answer to my question about Theranos: Was what she offered obviously impossible? That's my understanding. Blood is not homogeneous so it is physically impossible to get an accurate full blood panel from a single drop. Was there every any plan to address this or was it clearly a 100% fictitious product from the get-go? Did any journalist ever ask her or any scientist at Theranos abou…

My understanding from articles, they had scientists hard at work trying to get their machine to work and the issues that were essentially maintenance (you really couldn’t have a testing machine like this that didn’t require expensive / regular maintenance as promised). The amount of blood wasn’t really even addressed yet and they faked results in house using competitors machines.

In house teams were not optimistic, but they got paid to experiment and try so they did.

Re: Nathan Fielder's Elizabeth Holmes Doc Met with Shock and Awe at Secret Screening

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Rehabilitating her image in the same format as Martha Stewart promises to be highly profitable for pre-public investors who can reap the holdings of bagholders yet to come.

I assure you that Nathan Fielder is not rehabilitating her image. If you’ve see his work, you’d understand. He gets people with personality disorders or a lack of embarrassment to act insane in front of cameras, more or less. I don’t see why that would change, given the subject. She tried to get out of prison by having a baby .

> He gets people with personality disorders or a lack of embarrassment to act insane in front of cameras, more or less.

When Harrison Ford does it it's called acting. When I do it men with an extra long sleeve white jacket appear

Re: Nathan Fielder's Elizabeth Holmes Doc Met with Shock and Awe at Secret Screening

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I haven't been able to get a clear answer to my question about Theranos: Was what she offered obviously impossible? That's my understanding. Blood is not homogeneous so it is physically impossible to get an accurate full blood panel from a single drop. Was there every any plan to address this or was it clearly a 100% fictitious product from the get-go? Did any journalist ever ask her or any scientist at Theranos abou…

Yes it is obviously impossible, as anyone familiar with the subject could (and did) say. You can't detect something that is so dilute that there isn't even a single molecule of it in a single drop of blood drawn from a capillary.
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