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Harvard study predicts most suicide attempts a week in advance

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Re: Harvard study predicts most suicide attempts a week in advance

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Was very curious on what was meant by the following:

> The study included a real-time alert system for intervening if a person indicated a high suicidal intent

Because it sounds a bit dystopian.

And found a little more about it[0]

> For example, in our monitoring studies, we install smartphone apps on participants’ phones. These participants are often recruited from hospitals after presenting with high suicide risk. We tell them explicitly that we monitor responses during certain hours—for example, between 9 a.m. and 9 p.m.—and that we will do our best to respond if we believe they are at imminent risk of harming themselves.

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> We have real-time alerts when someone crosses a predefined risk threshold, and we follow a very detailed protocol that specifies exactly what actions we take at each level of risk. But we want participants to understand that this is not a replacement for clinical care. We are not a “Minority Report” system that will swoop in and prevent harm in every case.

[0]: https://primr.org/ethical-challenges-in-suicide-research/

Re: Harvard study predicts most suicide attempts a week in advance

#6
Unqualified use of the word "predicts" is a little bit of a stretch in this editorialized title.

The study doesn't predict suicide attempts out of some type of biometric or otherwise observable data or surveillance information, it's predicting it from a self-survey. The actual journal article title tells the story much better:

"Using smartphone surveys to predict next-week suicide attempts"

https://psycnet.apa.org/doiLanding?doi=10.1037%2Fabn0001117

Re: Harvard study predicts most suicide attempts a week in advance

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post #4

Was very curious on what was meant by the following: > The study included a real-time alert system for intervening if a person indicated a high suicidal intent Because it sounds a bit dystopian. And found a little more about it[0] > For example, in our monitoring studies, we install smartphone apps on participants’ phones. These participants are often recruited from hospitals after presenting with high suicide risk.…

It’s very much an embodiment of the law that says to monitor a system is to interfere with it; it would be very hard to say they “predicted” general suicide attempts vs they set up a scenario that allowed them to nudge people into such actions given everything.

Re: Harvard study predicts most suicide attempts a week in advance

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Unqualified use of the word "predicts" is a little bit of a stretch in this editorialized title. The study doesn't predict suicide attempts out of some type of biometric or otherwise observable data or surveillance information, it's predicting it from a self-survey. The actual journal article title tells the story much better: "Using smartphone surveys to predict next-week suicide attempts" https://psycnet.apa.org/do…

Uh, sounds like a prediction to me? It’s not “not a prediction” just because the prediction is not made on a certain type of data.
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