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Re: Muse – Meta’s personal AI agent

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Post by shostack »

nzoschke wrote: post #31

Why would you share data with Meta like this? The Agent Computer is super powerful, but by definition its easier than ever to build one yourself, and a the result is a personal and private computer. I know most "normal" people wont want to build their own this but there are still a lot of options that don't involve giving Meta or Grok all your data. I put some notes on all this here: https://housecat.com/blog/agent-c…

Your comment is slightly reminiscent of the response to dropbox when it was first announced on HN.

Re: Muse – Meta’s personal AI agent

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Post by david_shaw »

Avicebron wrote: post #244
simonw wrote: post #229

Meta AI's David Singleton has a thread about their security prompt injection defenses here: https://twitter.com/dps/status/2097404102468899131 > One threat we’re particularly focused on is prompt injection, and we handle it in layers. The model is trained to recognize and resist it. The harness marks anything coming from an untrusted source. Deterministic code checks the result. And an ensemble of classifiers runs wh…

I like that we are talking about prompt injections from you to your personal assistant. Obviously I know what they are for, but still, it's so funny that we've just normalized building software adversarial to the consumers supposedly engaging with the product. "I'm sorry simon, your request for purchasing milk this week doesn't correspond with Zuck's milk positions in the market. I've rescheduled that for next week."

> I like that we are talking about prompt injections from you to your personal assistant. Obviously I know what they are for, but still, it's so funny that we've just normalized building software adversarial to the consumers supposedly engaging with the product.

As you can see in their marketing page, Muse is a personal assistant that reaches out and/or ingests data through apps, the web, your email/messages, etc.

If someone sends you a malicious email or if Muse finds a malicious website by accident, you wouldn't want it to send them all of your photos or to purchase things you don't want (or maybe that aren't even real).

The payment related examples on the page are of particular concern, but I imagine it kicks back to a human to actually pay for things. But who knows?

Re: Muse – Meta’s personal AI agent

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Post by scosman »

Grombobulous wrote: post #294

I think the product as shown in this marketing material with these examples falls squarely in the “nobody asked for this” territory of AI. At least with B2B AI there is a problem to be solved: reduce my labor costs and increase my business output. What’s happened here is that consumer technology is already solved, but companies like Meta are trying to jam AI technology into something that solves the non-problems that…

> “nobody asked for this”

I absolutely want a general purpose assistant.

I absolutely don't trust Facebook with the necessary data.

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Post by svachalek »

fathermarz wrote: post #250
ajkjk wrote: post #240

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think you're right, but I'd add that... if this wasn't obvious to you without being told, you should really question your worldview a bit. A lot of people think that chat.com is an AI called "chat". Most people don't know acronym "LLM". Most people don't know about the existence of companies called "OpenAI" or "Anthropic", or that they are worth a lot of money. Etc.

This is very accurate. I teach seniors about how to use AI responsibly and they are always mind blown, and I keep it very high level. The amount of Chat”GTP” users there are out there that have no idea who the main vendors are. Most of them also think that Google is just a “search” company.

Wait, isn't it ChatGBD?

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Post by lettergram »

Grombobulous wrote: post #294

I think the product as shown in this marketing material with these examples falls squarely in the “nobody asked for this” territory of AI. At least with B2B AI there is a problem to be solved: reduce my labor costs and increase my business output. What’s happened here is that consumer technology is already solved, but companies like Meta are trying to jam AI technology into something that solves the non-problems that…

The first example I saw was making a shopping list for school for pick up.

Do the same thing for recipes and buying groceries.

Or "order me take out from a bunch of places I haven't been that you think I'd like." The AI can ask follow up questions and see your ratings.

"Make a music playlist for my daughter when she enters the car based on the conversation last month. I remember vaguely her mentioning what she liked"

These are things that 100% people want AI to do -- imagine if you had a personal assistant, is something people have asked for since forever.

Now, I kind of agree on the minimal use compared to business, because in business everything has always been highly integrated. That said, that's changing rapidly.

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Post by dd8601fn »

ajkjk wrote: post #240
abixb wrote: post #234

I think Meta's strategy is to capture the 'normie-tier' of AI users. I know most of us here on HN track model releases quite frequently and discuss every parameter weight out of them, but most of the world is just... oblivious? I was discussing latest in tech with an accounting friend out of curiosity, and I kept talking about tiers of GPT-5.6 (Sol vs Terra vs Luna) and asked which one she used on the desktop 'Work'…

I think you're right, but I'd add that... if this wasn't obvious to you without being told, you should really question your worldview a bit. A lot of people think that chat.com is an AI called "chat". Most people don't know acronym "LLM". Most people don't know about the existence of companies called "OpenAI" or "Anthropic", or that they are worth a lot of money. Etc.

The joke of it is that I see those same people (ones who haven’t heard “LLM” before, don’t know what a model is or even the vaguest idea how these work, etc) have very strong opinions on the state of AI, where it’s headed, and are willing to make projections with timelines.

Bill Maher is one example.

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Post by mgaunard »

Grombobulous wrote: post #294

I think the product as shown in this marketing material with these examples falls squarely in the “nobody asked for this” territory of AI. At least with B2B AI there is a problem to be solved: reduce my labor costs and increase my business output. What’s happened here is that consumer technology is already solved, but companies like Meta are trying to jam AI technology into something that solves the non-problems that…

I disagree. It matches exactly what I need.

Whenever I try to do something with ChatGPT or Gemini, it just refuses to do things citing limitations in its web browsing capabilities. An everyday LLM that can actually fill forms and do stuff for you on the Internet without having to run on your computer, write programs or interact through special harnesses is what normal people actually need.

It's a different need from the agentic coding type of LLM, where you provide the environment where it can write and execute arbitrary code.

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Post by asdfman123 »

Grombobulous wrote: post #294

I think the product as shown in this marketing material with these examples falls squarely in the “nobody asked for this” territory of AI. At least with B2B AI there is a problem to be solved: reduce my labor costs and increase my business output. What’s happened here is that consumer technology is already solved, but companies like Meta are trying to jam AI technology into something that solves the non-problems that…

No, after seeing how powerful AI is at my job, I definitely want AI to help plan dates, book flights, generate spreadsheets, do all the things.

The only problem is, like someone else pointed out, that I don't trust Meta.

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Post by redox99 »

tikotus wrote: post #287
redox99 wrote: post #282

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you... code by copy pasting chatgpt web???

Yes! Though I mainly use it for one-shotting full files, so I'm not copying over small diffs. I did try copilot at some point in vscode, but after a week or so I felt like it was slowing me down. Something I knew would be a simple and quick change was now slow since I didn't have enough ownership of the code to do it quickly myself, and prompting for the change took longer than changing it manually if I had had full…

Thanks for the reply. I'd suggest you improve your workflow with better tooling like Codex or Claude code, and if you have some kind of weird constraint they'll easily follow an AGENTS.md with that.
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