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Re: ChatGPT Images 2.5

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Post by ndarray »

TiredOfLife wrote: post #336
ndarray wrote: post #108

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Do you want to know how many identical questions ChatGPT gets asked every week, recomputing its answer each time because people stopped sharing results? I don't, but I'm sure it far exceeds 3 billion. "How to center a div", "how to install this and that package", "what is this pop culture reference", "who is this famous person",...

I ask a question to ChatGPT and i get an answer. I ask a question to google and i spend 10-100 times longer visiting multiple websites making multiple servers generate webpages wasting electricity and time reading them finding my answer, trying different solutions

Sounds like a complex question. On average you'll visit like 1.5 sites. Those SQL queries are peanuts compared to an LLM burning through tokens. Besides, for hard questions, the LLM itself might download 30-60 websites to find the info on your behalf, e.g. checking the state of RAM prices.

Re: ChatGPT Images 2.5

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Post by totallygeeky »

HDBaseT wrote: post #339
MonkeyIsNull wrote: post #220

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Wow, just a quick check .... it appears you are correct. Golf: ~531 billion gal/year Data centers: ~17 billion gal/year Golf ≈ 31× as much Indirect Water footprint via Electricity Usage: Golf: ~500–531B gallons Data centers including electricity: ~228B gallons

I don't really get the golf course hate. We need more green spaces, we need people to be active. Golf is a fairly quite sport, animals do foster around the greenery with golf courses. I would much rather a golf course than hot concrete everywhere.

Golf courses are not green spaces, come on now. They are most often limited in their access and devoid of greenery native to the area or that supports pollinators. Grass does not equal green space, and certainly not the flavor of green that is present in golf courses. The alternative to a golf course is not hot concrete either, that's a false dichotomy.

Re: ChatGPT Images 2.5

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Post by dgently7 »

MonkeyIsNull wrote: post #220
bahmboo wrote: post #109

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Groan. Your comment is the most depressing thing I've read today. What a sad way to look at the world. People are doing stuff and having fun. Meanwhile a whole sub-cult is sucking from the doom straw and mumbling carbon, water, greed, blah. The sport of Golf consumes far more resources than any AI data center.

Wow, just a quick check .... it appears you are correct. Golf: ~531 billion gal/year Data centers: ~17 billion gal/year Golf ≈ 31× as much Indirect Water footprint via Electricity Usage: Golf: ~500–531B gallons Data centers including electricity: ~228B gallons

the golf stat is actually way worse than this... because you aren't accounting for active users. how many people actually benefit from all that water.

a golf course... at BEST has two or three foursomes on each hole on average at a time. so 36-48 players concurrently. accounting for less than perfect utilization it rounds to a rough throughput of about 1000 people per day per course. winter Exists and so you probably get like 20-50k people per year.

or maybe an easier term would be the estimated 160m people who played golf at least once last year.

which means that not only are we using that much water for so few people (.002% of the population) we are also reserving all of that space for so few people. for courses out in the middle of nowhere that doesn't matter but for example are thousands of acres of courses inside and near cities. one in LA reported 117k visits one year and that required dawn to dusk 365 play only possible in a climate like LA.

A typical course is ~150 acres so we could fit 50 soccer fields into that same space and service 3.2 million players. Ill spare the envelope math but its pretty hard to come up with any other use for that space/water that could serve less people.

ok one more example that doesn't need water either. just up the street from the high volume golf course is runyon canyon. similar size 150 acres, serves 1.5m visits a year.

Basically golf is a major waste of resources for very little benefit in basically every way possible, and should be zoned out of existence.

Re: ChatGPT Images 2.5

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Post by ryan_n »

simianwords wrote: post #50
rs_rs_rs_rs_rs wrote: post #35

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Having a lot of fun with my son using an image of him and dressing him in all kinds of costumes. How is that depressing to you?

Its a simple way to feel superior - to sneer at normal people having fun and using technology.

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Re: ChatGPT Images 2.5

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Post by dgently7 »

HDBaseT wrote: post #339
MonkeyIsNull wrote: post #220

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wow, just a quick check .... it appears you are correct. Golf: ~531 billion gal/year Data centers: ~17 billion gal/year Golf ≈ 31× as much Indirect Water footprint via Electricity Usage: Golf: ~500–531B gallons Data centers including electricity: ~228B gallons

I don't really get the golf course hate. We need more green spaces, we need people to be active. Golf is a fairly quite sport, animals do foster around the greenery with golf courses. I would much rather a golf course than hot concrete everywhere.

its because "green spaces" and "spaces with greens" are not the same. just imagine a 150 acre generic park or forest instead of an over fertilized over watered field for a single game played by only .002 percent of people.

golf is generally a huge waste of space for the amount of value we get from it per person and should have no place anywhere near a population center where we actually need more green space.

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Post by plastic041 »

I can't stop thinking that these use cases aren't real, and OpenAI is just gaslighting people. Humans don't need AI for these trivial things.

This ad feels like a science fiction, where humans can't do anything without the help of their AI assistants.

- Design a tattoo of my cat

- What hairstyle should I have

- Arrange these flowers

What next? Who should I date? Open the door?

Re: ChatGPT Images 2.5

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Post by hashstring »

AyanamiKaine wrote: post #12

Omg, I love how the first examples just show how easy you can fake things. Fake being at a party with your friends. Didn't make your bed, no problem, just fake it. The sad part is my mother would love "remixing" my old child photos of me.

Apple Intelligence received the same criticism when they launched Siri AI. Seems like the faking it, is a common product UC.

Re: ChatGPT Images 2.5

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Post by bahmboo »

HDBaseT wrote: post #339
MonkeyIsNull wrote: post #220

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wow, just a quick check .... it appears you are correct. Golf: ~531 billion gal/year Data centers: ~17 billion gal/year Golf ≈ 31× as much Indirect Water footprint via Electricity Usage: Golf: ~500–531B gallons Data centers including electricity: ~228B gallons

I don't really get the golf course hate. We need more green spaces, we need people to be active. Golf is a fairly quite sport, animals do foster around the greenery with golf courses. I would much rather a golf course than hot concrete everywhere.

I'm not hating on golf. My grandfather would be appalled! In crowded urban areas they don't work so well anymore. And I'm also not against using our resources for human pleasure!
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