This is a pretty good move for Meta to go all in on. AI is ChatGPT and Gemini to normies, Meta is not considered. However when I ask one of my less technical friends if they connected any tools (email, calendar, docs, etc) they are clueless that this is even possible. To them AI answers questions and generates images. If Meta can get this to the masses as the first AI thats useful at doing agentic things, ie an assistant rather than a chatbot, then the average user will see meta as as the company who provides this to them. It’s their best chance at winning the category and having a strong play in AI. If I were Chat or Gemini I’d get something to market fast. Timing wise are they also hoping to beat / be compared to any siri announcements this week in the media too?
Muse – Meta’s personal AI agent
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Re: Muse – Meta’s personal AI agent
#172Right now we have those OpenClaw commercial alternatives: Grok Bot, Muse, Viktor. Anything more?
I'm sure there's a way to pay for Hermes Agent. https://portal.nousresearch.com/cloud
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#173I love how the marketing departments of these things always imagine people are just constantly plagued by the hassle of organising their flights, restaurant bookings and movie tickets
I liked how in the example here it tells the user "Your flight is delayed 2hrs due to storms in Denver..." Then says "checking alternate routes" then shows them a card with their original flight details (it does have "Delayed" in red at the top) and asks them if they would like to change their flight. The user responds with "Yes please! :thumbsup:" The AI does not provide any information about the new flight, and onl…
Which airline lets you change flights?! Is this an NA thing?
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#174Earlier quoted context omitted.
There are 3 billion users of FB/WhatsApp/Instagram combined, most people don't give a shit and are just trying to minimize cognitive effort. My elderly parents would absolutely love if someone would just tell them what to do and eat every day because it would mean less planning.
WhatsApp is end-to-end encrypted, so I'm not trusting Meta with much, and it's the only way I can reach quite a lot of people. A lot of people I know trust them begrudgingly (primarily with Instagram, because all of their friends are on it as well). People don't need to love a company to use its products. The perceived benefit merely needs to be bigger than the perceived cost.
WhatsApp is E2EE, but Meta controls both ends. Instead of reading your plaintext on the server, they read it on the client. Not that tricky.
I presume the hardest part would be avoiding detection via decompilation and other reverse engineering techniques. Not familiar with that space (can anyone here shed some light?), but it seems likely that an entity with Meta’s resources would be able to figure that out.
E2EE probably protects well against bulk data collection (traffic analysis would sniff out sending 2x volume of data pretty quickly). But something more subtle and targeted, smuggled out in various fields of various protocols, would be hard to detect.
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#175Earlier quoted context omitted.
> There are 3 billion users of FB/WhatsApp/Instagram combined Is there tho? I have Facebook account but don't use it in any meaningful way. I'm certainly not feeding it any new data. I'm curious to know what percentage of that 3 billion are zombie accounts like mine.
There almost certainly is. I think on HN people aren’t really aware that they don’t represent the median internet user super well. I would wager if you were to tally every late millennial and zoomer across the west, Instagram usage would probably be near 90%. Facebook usage among older people is also still absolutely rampant, at least anecdotally. Not to mention WhatsApp usage which is huge everywhere but the US seem…
I'll take that wager! Before you look at any real statistics, how does $1000 sound?
Re: Muse – Meta’s personal AI agent
#176> Muse Secure VM runs on a persistent, dedicated virtual machine equipped with a state-of-the-art browser to navigate the web.
Will this finally be the era of thin-clients? Third times the charm
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#177Facebook is the first to market with a polished openclaw? Good for them. I'm sure many others will criticize other aspects of Meta, and rightly so. But imagine using a Claw agent with zero tech support available
Openclaw creator Peter Steinberg was in talks with Zuck at the beginning of the year before choosing to work for Openai.
I think Meta limiting factor for this product was lack of agentic capable models which they fixed now with aggressive RLHF focused data gathering.
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#178Earlier quoted context omitted.
There are 3 billion users of FB/WhatsApp/Instagram combined, most people don't give a shit and are just trying to minimize cognitive effort. My elderly parents would absolutely love if someone would just tell them what to do and eat every day because it would mean less planning.
> There are 3 billion users of FB/WhatsApp/Instagram combined Is there tho? I have Facebook account but don't use it in any meaningful way. I'm certainly not feeding it any new data. I'm curious to know what percentage of that 3 billion are zombie accounts like mine.
FB Marketplace is great.
Re: Muse – Meta’s personal AI agent
#179Earlier quoted context omitted.
WhatsApp is end-to-end encrypted, so I'm not trusting Meta with much, and it's the only way I can reach quite a lot of people. A lot of people I know trust them begrudgingly (primarily with Instagram, because all of their friends are on it as well). People don't need to love a company to use its products. The perceived benefit merely needs to be bigger than the perceived cost.
WhatsApp is E2EE, but Meta controls both ends. Instead of reading your plaintext on the server, they read it on the client. Not that tricky. I presume the hardest part would be avoiding detection via decompilation and other reverse engineering techniques. Not familiar with that space (can anyone here shed some light?), but it seems likely that an entity with Meta’s resources would be able to figure that out. E2EE pro…
They only need to get caught doing it once to have a gigantic lawsuit on their hands. They could possibly pull it off very selectively, but doing it in a dragnet fashion seems incredibly risky.
Re: Muse – Meta’s personal AI agent
#180Earlier quoted context omitted.
> There are 3 billion users of FB/WhatsApp/Instagram combined Is there tho? I have Facebook account but don't use it in any meaningful way. I'm certainly not feeding it any new data. I'm curious to know what percentage of that 3 billion are zombie accounts like mine.
There almost certainly is. I think on HN people aren’t really aware that they don’t represent the median internet user super well. I would wager if you were to tally every late millennial and zoomer across the west, Instagram usage would probably be near 90%. Facebook usage among older people is also still absolutely rampant, at least anecdotally. Not to mention WhatsApp usage which is huge everywhere but the US seem…
For anyone who has school age kids, WhatsApp usage is pretty huge in the US as well.