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This Month in Ladybird – August 2026

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Re: This Month in Ladybird – August 2026

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Post by lproven »

AshleysBrain wrote: post #72
senfiaj wrote: post #26

I am watching this project with interest. It's impressive that they're doing such titanic work. However, I'm highly skeptical that they can create a real rival to established browsers. I'm sorry for telling this, but Web standards are simply too complex and huge. Ladybird to Chrome / Firefox is almost like Wine / ReactOS to Windows, that last 3-5% of gap actually differentiates a normal browser from a browser that is…

This is probably an unpopular opinion but I think that if all this effort went in to improving Firefox, or a fork of Firefox if the goal is to totally de-Google it, then that wouldn't be such a problem and it would overall be healthier for the web. I don't really understand the purpose of this titanic software engineering effort just to avoid... a default search engine setting?

> if all this effort went in to improving Firefox, or a fork of Firefox

Someone tried to instigate that on Mastodon recently. It didn't work.

https://mastodon.social/@sarahjamielewis/116959309031485270

Spread the word. Contact the developers, ask them.

The forks I know about:

• Waterfox -- https://www.waterfox.com/

• Librewolf -- https://librewolf.net/

• Floorp -- https://floorp.app/

• Zen browser -- https://zen-browser.app/

• Mullvad -- https://mullvad.net/en/browser

• Konform -- https://codeberg.org/konform-browser

Others:

GNU IceCat – https://www.gnu.org/software/gnuzilla/

Mercury – https://thorium.rocks/mercury

I fear it would be hard to get some of the earlier forks on board... these are all based on much older codebases:

• Palemoon -- https://www.palemoon.org/

• Basilisk – https://www.basilisk-browser.org/

• Seamonkey – https://www.seamonkey-project.org/

Re: This Month in Ladybird – August 2026

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Post by kbelder »

senfiaj wrote: post #26

I am watching this project with interest. It's impressive that they're doing such titanic work. However, I'm highly skeptical that they can create a real rival to established browsers. I'm sorry for telling this, but Web standards are simply too complex and huge. Ladybird to Chrome / Firefox is almost like Wine / ReactOS to Windows, that last 3-5% of gap actually differentiates a normal browser from a browser that is…

Honestly, breaking on some advanced/esoteric features is a price I'd eagerly pay to get a browser that's cleaner, more lightweight, and user-focused.

Re: This Month in Ladybird – August 2026

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Post by unethical_ban »

surajrmal wrote: post #80
KingMob wrote: post #55

Ugh, this guy again. I would stop using the web forever before I used Ladybird or anything made by Kling. You praise DHH and Charlie Kirk, your moral compass is broken.

People are all flawed. You can find faults in everyone. Overlooking these flaws is okay to a large number of folks as the product itself is amazing. The fact is that you're likely ignorant to the large number of products and services you use produced by folks with similar flaws.

Is your suggestion that no one care?

Re: This Month in Ladybird – August 2026

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Post by wolvoleo »

lproven wrote: post #76
ilvez wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just a small personal touch -- my coworker is constantly pushing me to use Chrome because it "just works", but I'm stubborn as hell. Used Firefox from early 2000s. Oh how I will love to twist his nerve even more once I will switch to Ladybird. Saying this because there has been more harder days to counter these pushes. And to be honest I think we are overthinking about how much this last 3-5 % actually matter for hug…

> I'm still believing that there will be a year of desktop Linux coming. Maybe even sooner than we expect. It started 9 years ago. That's the year ChromeBooks first outsold Macs in the USA. And note, that is by value, not units, meaning at least 4-5x as many Chromebooks were sold as all Mac hardware put together. By 3-4y later this was worldwide. So desktop Linux computers are now comprehensively outselling macOS mac…

Eh of course we don't count a totally locked down walled garden as Linux.

Re: This Month in Ladybird – August 2026

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Post by surajrmal »

unethical_ban wrote: post #84
surajrmal wrote: post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

People are all flawed. You can find faults in everyone. Overlooking these flaws is okay to a large number of folks as the product itself is amazing. The fact is that you're likely ignorant to the large number of products and services you use produced by folks with similar flaws.

Is your suggestion that no one care?

My suggestion is to not try to idolize individuals. Products should be judged independent of the individuals involved in creating them, especially when many individuals participate in their creation.
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