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Re: I-have-ADHD: A skill to stop coding agents from burying the answer

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Post by cyanydeez »

saghm wrote: post #112
jp57 wrote: post #71

Let's face it. Claude (in particular) is a terrible writer. There's a whole cottage industry of skills and CLAUDE.md instructions trying to push it toward writing better, but each new model iteration seems expressly designed to override all that so that it can load up its writing with unnecessary participle phrases, not-this-but-thats, burying the lede, and other nonsense. I genuinely wonder if the people inside Anth…

You think that they communicate? I just assumed they sent each other output of Claude, which is then fed into Claude

why even copy-paste when you can just plug the two terminals together and observe like fish; then just occasionally sprinkle in the flakes.

Isn't that the idea here, just stop being people.

Re: I-have-ADHD: A skill to stop coding agents from burying the answer

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Post by Yizahi »

kube-system wrote: post #131
idicjeifjwjd wrote: post #97

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The thing I struggle the most with is getting it to stop referring to itself with personal pronouns. No Claude, you are not an “I” you are an “it”. You are a fucking tool, dammit. Tell me what you did without trying to assume personality; stop impersonating humans you steroidal autocorrect.

You're anthropomorphizing in the same breath that you criticize anthropomorphism. Claude predicts the next token of the predominantly human training input, and humans use "I".

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Re: I-have-ADHD: A skill to stop coding agents from burying the answer

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Post by hashstring »

cromka wrote: post #168
jp57 wrote: post #71

Let's face it. Claude (in particular) is a terrible writer. There's a whole cottage industry of skills and CLAUDE.md instructions trying to push it toward writing better, but each new model iteration seems expressly designed to override all that so that it can load up its writing with unnecessary participle phrases, not-this-but-thats, burying the lede, and other nonsense. I genuinely wonder if the people inside Anth…

I was incredibly surprised how much better was Astra at rephrasing the docs that Fable came up for a project I am about to publish. The instructions are now actually what a human would expect, with clear logic flow diagrams, lists itemized, short paragraphs. It also actually correctly detected the train-of-thought leftovers, as well as stuff that never made it to final version of the project and removed them. Meanwhi…

These resets also reset your weekly timer right. So it’s like, you may have 30% left for 1 days that you want to use. They reset it, and that means you your “new week” timer starts today.

That sucks, because it doesn’t always work in your favour if you plan your weekly spend.

I think a real reset shouldn’t also reset your week timer.

Re: I-have-ADHD: A skill to stop coding agents from burying the answer

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Post by [deleted] »

ryandrake wrote: post #74

The biggest "Claudism" that I have a hard time getting the LLM to stop doing is its insistence on talking about what it didn't do in addition to what it did. "I edited this.py and that.py but I did not edit README.md and I did not commit." or code comments like "This code invokes foo on bar and returns the results directly -- not through a callback." "This code returns true if the user clicked on a button -- not on t…

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Re: I-have-ADHD: A skill to stop coding agents from burying the answer

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Post by snerbles »

sleazebreeze wrote: post #12

Claude models are the ones that need this the most and in my experience with this specific skill only maintain the conciseness for a few turns at most before they completely forget and are back to their unfathomable verbosity. That's with it instructed to use it in my sparse global CLAUDE.md and also manually repeating it regularly during sessions. I don't really want to install a hook that runs this on every single…

I got so angry at Fable's verbosity that I had a non-Anthropic model vibe-code a dedicated English linter. One that threw spaghetti at the wall in the form of combined Flesch-Kincaid, Gunning Fog, SMOG, Coleman-Liau, ARI and a whole pile of regexes and NLP as a fast Simple Technical English Gate. It also incorporates nicely into other agent projects, like for comment and README linting.

So if it gets bad I simply tell it "I ain't reading all that, feed it through the STE Gate" and it will tame the results. I haven't bothered to set it up as a hook yet.

Re: I-have-ADHD: A skill to stop coding agents from burying the answer

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Post by _the_inflator »

cromka wrote: post #168
jp57 wrote: post #71

Let's face it. Claude (in particular) is a terrible writer. There's a whole cottage industry of skills and CLAUDE.md instructions trying to push it toward writing better, but each new model iteration seems expressly designed to override all that so that it can load up its writing with unnecessary participle phrases, not-this-but-thats, burying the lede, and other nonsense. I genuinely wonder if the people inside Anth…

I was incredibly surprised how much better was Astra at rephrasing the docs that Fable came up for a project I am about to publish. The instructions are now actually what a human would expect, with clear logic flow diagrams, lists itemized, short paragraphs. It also actually correctly detected the train-of-thought leftovers, as well as stuff that never made it to final version of the project and removed them. Meanwhi…

Maybe check in the other direction as well: Astra to Fable.

I frequently simply let one of the three review what something that looks like awesome output by one AI gets totally annihilated by the other.

Finished outputs are easier to improve than bend a LLM to produce stuff like that in my observation.

Same with Gemini.

I yet have to find out how to handle this, whether I let agents check themselves and if on what process step.

Tweaking is hard.

I agree with your conclusion I am a huge ChatGPT and Codex fan, Gemini has to many infrequent quality changes when new models arrive ranging from great improvement to WTF.

ChatGPT seems to get scaling well while Claude still feels unstable, unclear usage statistics. Really weird.

Tough call I use all three.

Re: I-have-ADHD: A skill to stop coding agents from burying the answer

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Post by ocd »

Concerned this will negatively impact people who really have these mental disorders who provided that information in CLAUDE.md to make AI usable for them.

It's bad enough how many false diagnoses and drugs for these conditions are handed out to drug seekers, but potential poisoning of the well on how LLMs handle this information going forward could be extremely disruptive to people who have real daily living issues instead of "10xing productivity."

Re: I-have-ADHD: A skill to stop coding agents from burying the answer

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Post by plufz »

ocd wrote: post #178

Concerned this will negatively impact people who really have these mental disorders who provided that information in CLAUDE.md to make AI usable for them. It's bad enough how many false diagnoses and drugs for these conditions are handed out to drug seekers, but potential poisoning of the well on how LLMs handle this information going forward could be extremely disruptive to people who have real daily living issues i…

Im not 100% following. ADHD-type adjustments of information is usually the type of changes that make information more accessible for everyone. There are studies on how classes thst where adjusted because one student have adhd have improved all students performance. So it seems quite different from incorrect medication? Or am i misunderstanding you?

Re: I-have-ADHD: A skill to stop coding agents from burying the answer

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Post by jiggawatts »

jp57 wrote: post #71

Let's face it. Claude (in particular) is a terrible writer. There's a whole cottage industry of skills and CLAUDE.md instructions trying to push it toward writing better, but each new model iteration seems expressly designed to override all that so that it can load up its writing with unnecessary participle phrases, not-this-but-thats, burying the lede, and other nonsense. I genuinely wonder if the people inside Anth…

> I genuinely wonder if the people inside Anthropic actually communicate with each other like that.

I noticed the overuse of the word "sharper" or "sharp" in a science paper on ArXiV and my first reaction was "Ewww... AI slop!", but then I checked the date and it was 2020.

It looks like at least some AI-isms stem from the particular style of language commonly used in science papers. Several frontier labs have mentioned heavily weighting those during pre-training because higher quality inputs result in a higher quality model.

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