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Flights cancelled at UK airports due to ATC issue

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Re: Flights cancelled at UK airports due to ATC issue

#31

Better for the planet though.

Ocean liners use several times more fuel per passenger mile than airliners.

Thats a bit of an odd comparison as they are in pretty different categories and don’t really compete against each other.

Re: Flights cancelled at UK airports due to ATC issue

#32
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My wife is currently at Gatwick, supposed to have taken off 2 hours ago, but no update.... The frustrating thing is the complete lack of information. I cannot comprehend how nobody knows what the situation is. I mean, is aircraft on the tarmac yet? Has it left it's previous destination yet? etc. Worst part is, likely no compensation as it isn't the airlines "fault".

Why the use of scare quotes? It's not their fault. The airline arranged for flight crew, had the plane available, yet something outside of their control is preventing them from doing the deed. It's no different to the airline if a sudden bit of weather came along preventing the flight from taking off.

The problem is that the airlines don't let you know what is happening. They deliberately keep you in the dark.

Re: Flights cancelled at UK airports due to ATC issue

#34

In the middle of a highly geopolitically sensitive moment where there's been bombs at other European airports recently? Color me suspicious.

Immediately after UK announced sanctions on illegal settlements...

Israel sabotagged Spain as well, I can’t believe how naive most people are in support of Israel

Re: Flights cancelled at UK airports due to ATC issue

#35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why the use of scare quotes? It's not their fault. The airline arranged for flight crew, had the plane available, yet something outside of their control is preventing them from doing the deed. It's no different to the airline if a sudden bit of weather came along preventing the flight from taking off.

The problem is that the airlines don't let you know what is happening. They deliberately keep you in the dark.

If they told you, they might admit more than they actually need to be held responsible for, so no reason to go wasting shareholder value.

Re: Flights cancelled at UK airports due to ATC issue

#37

Including mine. I'm not angry because my flight was cancelled. It's a pain in the arse but what really infuriates me is the "We are terribly sorry" these PR releases give. I've been on hold for three hours with British Airlines and it's "we are sorry", no you're not. "We are truly sorry for the ongoing flight disruption" is what infuriates the situation; when words have no meaning behind the phase. Pixelated hold-mus…

What would you prefer they say?

Re: Flights cancelled at UK airports due to ATC issue

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People will be angry regardless of what they say, some if they say they're sorry, some if they don't say they're sorry. Regardless of what they say, some set of people or another is going to come out and be angry about it. What do you hope to accomplish with the phone call? Failures happen, does it make a difference if there's someone in charge feeling a strong emotion about it? Do the call center staff have to feel…

In the past year, I've flown for vacation twice, with delays on one leg of each. First one, United flight from IAD to SJU, 4-5 hour delay, mechanical issue, with updates from the gate agent every 45 minutes or so, basically keeping us well apprised of the status of our plane (and when that plane was no longer viable, of the replacement plane and then replacement crew). "Flight crew saw a warning light and needs to ta…

You really only know for sure when the captain walks up the jet way and tells the assembled passengers him/her self.

Re: Flights cancelled at UK airports due to ATC issue

#39

Better for the planet though.

Ocean liners use several times more fuel per passenger mile than airliners.

Ocean liners use several times more fuel per passenger mile than airliners.

So what? Two things can be bad at the same time. Nobody mentioned ocean liners except you. Why not bring up the greenhouse gases from landfills while you're at it?

Whatabouting everything is so last decade.

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