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Re: I-have-ADHD: A skill to stop coding agents from burying the answer

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Post by 0xffff2 »

mjsarfatti wrote: post #137

You don’t need a skill. Just tell it to BLUF (bottom line up front) and ASD-STE100. And stop using Opus 9 Pro Max XHigh 10.0 for everything. If you choose a hyper-thinking model for asking the weather you can’t but expect yapping.

How do you actually incorporate these into your prompt? Because I've tried and I've seen many others try and report that it does not work well, especially over long sessions.

I also don't know how much to trust the model, but I've had the model tell me specifically that certain aspects of ASD-STE100 are unactionable and will just create more noise.

The OP's own skill even leads with something in a very similar vein:

> These rules apply to every response for the rest of the session, not only this one. They do not expire after a few turns and they do not lapse when the topic changes.

My understanding is that phrases like this are at best a _very_ weak signal to the model. It's simply contradictory to how the model works at a level that can't be overridden by injecting tokens.

Re: I-have-ADHD: A skill to stop coding agents from burying the answer

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Post by yuck39 »

jp57 wrote: post #71

Let's face it. Claude (in particular) is a terrible writer. There's a whole cottage industry of skills and CLAUDE.md instructions trying to push it toward writing better, but each new model iteration seems expressly designed to override all that so that it can load up its writing with unnecessary participle phrases, not-this-but-thats, burying the lede, and other nonsense. I genuinely wonder if the people inside Anth…

I have always postulated that it was intentionally bad as to watermark its own output to avoid using it for training the next model.

Re: I-have-ADHD: A skill to stop coding agents from burying the answer

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Post by TomGarden »

jp57 wrote: post #71

Let's face it. Claude (in particular) is a terrible writer. There's a whole cottage industry of skills and CLAUDE.md instructions trying to push it toward writing better, but each new model iteration seems expressly designed to override all that so that it can load up its writing with unnecessary participle phrases, not-this-but-thats, burying the lede, and other nonsense. I genuinely wonder if the people inside Anth…

It seems they are taking it seriously now - Boris et al have been mentioning they are working on a fix and shipped a temporary band-aid output style to combat Opus 5's horrendous prose.

We'll see if they can do it, I originally got into Claude Code because it, at the time, felt more accessible/conversational than Codex/Gemini. Now it's shifted to say the least

Re: I-have-ADHD: A skill to stop coding agents from burying the answer

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Post by elwell »

bgilroy26 wrote: post #83
jp57 wrote: post #71

Let's face it. Claude (in particular) is a terrible writer. There's a whole cottage industry of skills and CLAUDE.md instructions trying to push it toward writing better, but each new model iteration seems expressly designed to override all that so that it can load up its writing with unnecessary participle phrases, not-this-but-thats, burying the lede, and other nonsense. I genuinely wonder if the people inside Anth…

You've identified a load-bearing problem and it's worth naming

Honestly...

Re: I-have-ADHD: A skill to stop coding agents from burying the answer

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Post by elwell »

krustyburger wrote: post #98
jp57 wrote: post #71

Let's face it. Claude (in particular) is a terrible writer. There's a whole cottage industry of skills and CLAUDE.md instructions trying to push it toward writing better, but each new model iteration seems expressly designed to override all that so that it can load up its writing with unnecessary participle phrases, not-this-but-thats, burying the lede, and other nonsense. I genuinely wonder if the people inside Anth…

Not just imprinted with the engrams of any one person (however brilliant they might be) — it’s more than that! Like all great writing, it’s more like it’s been imbued with patterns, patterns that are peppered with a potpourri of popular ways of writing in an enthusiastic style while regularly restating things and recapitulating them. Would you like me to explain more?

Felt more ChatGPT that Claude

Re: I-have-ADHD: A skill to stop coding agents from burying the answer

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Post by sixothree »

hbn wrote: post #89

> Install > Copy/paste into your CLI prompt: > Install the i-have-adhd skill/plugin from https://github.com/ayghri/i-have-adhd , refer to the repo's AGENTS.md for instructions. This is a weird evolution from "don't copy-paste scripts that pipe curl into your shell interpreter" I know LLMs are getting better but I'd be at least a little nervous it could end up installing something from a squatted similarly-named githu…

You might be surprised at the developer documentation for OS8088 (recently posted on HN). https://os8088.com/developers/

Instead of describing to the user how to setup their dev environment, section 3 basically instructs the agent to install all developer tools required for the application to operate in development mode.

Re: I-have-ADHD: A skill to stop coding agents from burying the answer

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Post by djmips »

IshKebab wrote: post #106

I solved this by switching from Claude to Codex. It's crazy how much faster it is to reply and how much less verbose its replies are. Dunno why Claude is popular at all...

Intertia. Codex wasn't as good at coding until Astra dropped.

Re: I-have-ADHD: A skill to stop coding agents from burying the answer

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Post by cruffle_duffle »

visarga wrote: post #138
jp57 wrote: post #115

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But why did that style of writing get rewarded? The people at Anthropic are ultimately responsible for the reward signal and what it produced.

I blame it on their focus on "persona design". They botched it.

"They botched it." <-- sure, but worse.... they shipped it anyway. And that is the part that gets me. It's a vastly worse product than it was on like 4.6. I suppose you can (and should) use opus 4.6 -- they do make it available still. Then just treat 5 as something you avoid until they push out a new version.

Re: I-have-ADHD: A skill to stop coding agents from burying the answer

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Post by 0xffff2 »

hungryhobbit wrote: post #61
josefresco wrote: post #45

Does this not work? "Output styles" https://code.claude.com/docs/en/output-styles

No, it does not.

But also, this skill is basically the same thing as an output style, so it won't work either.
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