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Post by Zambyte »

shigawire wrote: post #125
LinXitoW wrote: post #102

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Considering that especially leftists have spent literal decades hating on vegans for telling them about their individual footprint, there is no real fallacy here. AI haters have somehow discovered personal responsibility. Awesome. They've never ever applied that to anything else they PERSONALLY do, though. It's only things others do. For any personal choices, suddenly it's all the governments fault or the corporation…

I can acknowledge that I should be vegan and still be unable/unwilling to make the sacrifices to do it. People are flawed.

Being flawed isn't the issue. Everyone is flawed. The issue is blaming people for problems like environmental damage, while at the same time needlessly causing more damage yourself. The problem is being hypocritical. Some people are certainly more hypocritical than others.

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Post by Revanche1367 »

bahmboo wrote: post #109
conradludgate wrote: post #18

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Groan. Your comment is the most depressing thing I've read today. What a sad way to look at the world. People are doing stuff and having fun. Meanwhile a whole sub-cult is sucking from the doom straw and mumbling carbon, water, greed, blah. The sport of Golf consumes far more resources than any AI data center.

I’m not commenting on whether generative AI is especially resource-wasteful or not, but a lot of people online seem to have newly discovered the existence of data centers.

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Post by andai »

RobinL wrote: post #140
Starlevel004 wrote: post #118

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I wish I could do it better. There seems to be a lot of variability. This episode of radiolab on the topic is fascinating: https://radiolab.org/podcast/aphantasia/transcript?utm_sourc...

The apple scale:

https://www.reddit.com/r/HelloInternet/comments/f0wuej/are_y...

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Post by Black616Angel »

XenophileJKO wrote: post #93
paimapi wrote: post #49

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plus the energy cost - https://www.technologyreview.com/2023/12/01/1084189/making-a... >Generating 1,000 images with a powerful AI model, such as Stable Diffusion XL, is responsible for roughly as much carbon dioxide as driving the equivalent of 4.1 miles in an average gasoline-powered car. In contrast, the least carbon-intensive text generation model they examined was responsible for as much CO2 as driving 0.0006 mi…

That's the complaint? That if I make pictures for a few years, let's say on average 1 a day.. it will equal a small errand of carbon? If anything now I feel LESS guilty about usage.

But 3 billion pictures per week is equivalent to 12.4 million miles or 639.6 million miles extra per year.* It's not about you. There are no 3 billion people each creating one picture per week. Its probably more like 10.000 assholes creating 2.5 billion pictures per week to satisfy some stupid online feed and the other users creating a picture per month on average.

* if we trust the numbers in the other comment

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Post by wilg »

Black616Angel wrote: post #119
bahmboo wrote: post #109

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Groan. Your comment is the most depressing thing I've read today. What a sad way to look at the world. People are doing stuff and having fun. Meanwhile a whole sub-cult is sucking from the doom straw and mumbling carbon, water, greed, blah. The sport of Golf consumes far more resources than any AI data center.

Okay, but firstly golf is probably the most useless sport ever and secondly there is more than one AI datacenter. Yes, some people have fun, but most of the "fun" nowadays is just endless mindless consumption.

Golf consumes more water than ALL datacenters on earth.

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Post by recitedropper »

LinXitoW wrote: post #102
recitedropper wrote: post #72

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Someone needs to name this fallacy. The existence of existing harmful norms does not, ex ante, justify introducing additional harmful norms. I propose naming it the "GenAI Defender Fallacy". Separately--yes, I would love carbon receipts for everything. Such a system would be fascinating and do real good in this world.

Considering that especially leftists have spent literal decades hating on vegans for telling them about their individual footprint, there is no real fallacy here. AI haters have somehow discovered personal responsibility. Awesome. They've never ever applied that to anything else they PERSONALLY do, though. It's only things others do. For any personal choices, suddenly it's all the governments fault or the corporation…

This is such a strange reply I don't even know what to do with it. Good on you for being vegan, and not prompting?

I have gone lacto-ovo vegetarian in the past year, so I'll take your 5 years of veganism as inspiration. Otherwise, I welcome people waking up to the harm they cause, regardless of their past hypocrisy.

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Post by fsloth »

Starlevel004 wrote: post #118
meerita wrote: post #111

I've really enjoyed using AI to generate images. For example, Long time ago, I read an amazing five-book saga called Riverworld, and I used AI to recreate many scenes, places, and ideas from the story. Seeing the books come to life through hundreds of images was a great experience. Definitely one of the coolest things to enjoy in 2026. Try it with your favorite books.

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Not all people can!

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Post by throawayonthe »

bluegatty wrote: post #144
conradludgate wrote: post #18

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This an oddly cynical comment, that I think says more about the observer than the observed. People are having fun making images. Like they do all sorts of things on the web. Making an image is as simple as visiting a web-page. That's it.

oh no... it's fun... you got us...

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Post by [deleted] »

wolfy1993 wrote: post #130
bahmboo wrote: post #109

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Groan. Your comment is the most depressing thing I've read today. What a sad way to look at the world. People are doing stuff and having fun. Meanwhile a whole sub-cult is sucking from the doom straw and mumbling carbon, water, greed, blah. The sport of Golf consumes far more resources than any AI data center.

Remind me what golf club comes close to the energy consumption of a data center? Or do you literally mean the entire sport of golf vs 1 data center?

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Re: ChatGPT Images 2.5

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Post by AyanamiKaine »

jodacola wrote: post #158
AyanamiKaine wrote: post #12

Omg, I love how the first examples just show how easy you can fake things. Fake being at a party with your friends. Didn't make your bed, no problem, just fake it. The sad part is my mother would love "remixing" my old child photos of me.

I’m less concerned about faking being at a party with friends and more with the 2006 timestamp on said photo! Can you imagine finding a stack of photos in the basement with timestamps of the Before AI times and wondering whether they are real or just got swapped with generated and printed fakes? Scary! It’s cool, folks… nothing bad is going to happen. Right? Right?!

True, I didn't thought about that. Just imagine the scale of "historic" images that will be created over the next 100 years.
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