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LibreOffice breaks download records after declaring it has no AI features

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Re: LibreOffice breaks download records after declaring it has no AI features

#163

I found this graph of LibreOffice downloads https://stats.documentfoundation.org/downloads Switching to the monthly view, the downloads are actually mostly flat going back to 2019 I can believe that the downloads record has been broken in the same way that the stock market hits record highs all the time because the long term trend is upward. I don’t see anything to suggest that LibreOffice is seeing a sudden surge in…

> Switching to the monthly view

I'd hardly consider fluctuations between 2.2 million and 3.3 million dowloads "flat".

Also, the metric used in the article was "downloads in the first week after a new release", which apparently broke a record. Regardless of the reason behind that record breaking number, switching to monthly dowloads to see if there is a sudden surge in popularity seems like the wrong metric.

Re: LibreOffice breaks download records after declaring it has no AI features

#164
post #146

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Absolute number of downloads inevitably goes up. Weekly downloads number doesn't.

> In one week, the installer was downloaded more than 1 million times — not counting updates via Linux distribution repositories. Either there's 1m people downloading new software "because no ai", or there's another popular thing that installs this, and is not counted in the "updates via linux repos". One is much much more probable than the other.

> or there's another popular thing that installs this

Yeah, an AI tool:

The ChatGPT/Codex app bundles a full copy of LibreOffice

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49527396

Re: LibreOffice breaks download records after declaring it has no AI features

#165
post #146

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Absolute number of downloads inevitably goes up. Weekly downloads number doesn't.

> In one week, the installer was downloaded more than 1 million times — not counting updates via Linux distribution repositories. Either there's 1m people downloading new software "because no ai", or there's another popular thing that installs this, and is not counted in the "updates via linux repos". One is much much more probable than the other.

You underestimate the public's hatred of AI-in-everything. HN is a bubble of AI.

Re: LibreOffice breaks download records after declaring it has no AI features

#166
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The number of weekly downloads has simply been increasing over time, due to growing popularity. Calling each new high "record-breaking" is a bit meaningless. Unix timestamp counter breaks record after writing this comment.

It's the tried and true headline method of "event 2 happened after event 1", implying a causal effect between the two, despite no evidence of such effect existing. Technically the headline is correct, in the same way that "Canada Tariffs $20b in US Goods After Amazon Plane Crash" is also correct.

LibreOffice breaks download records after Trump renames Lake Ontario to Lake America

Re: LibreOffice breaks download records after declaring it has no AI features

#167
Awesome. Now can we fix the bugs and make it more usable? I’m longing for a Microsoft/Google alternative but they are all still clunky as hell and lack the integration of Outlook. Im currently using Planner as an excel replacement and it is painful but less painful than LibreOffice.

Re: LibreOffice breaks download records after declaring it has no AI features

#168

Companies are totally blind to the fact that A.I. is a complete turn-off to many customers. Not having / using A.I. may even become a unique selling point in the future.

How many, though? It looks to me like the anti-AI crowd is not all that big, but it’s a bubble so they think everyone thinks that way. Especially if we’re talking about people who are so rabidly against it that they’ll get upset about optional AI features that are completely ignorable.

Even if the features are ignorable, they have consumed development time and attention to get there.

Re: LibreOffice breaks download records after declaring it has no AI features

#169
Nah, it is probably due to AI agents' love for Libre Office. Codex prefers Libre Office for docs. Other agents may do this as well.

People who have never known about Libre Office are now downloading and using Libre Office (often without realizing it).

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49527396

Re: LibreOffice breaks download records after declaring it has no AI features

#170
post #46
post #6

The number of weekly downloads has simply been increasing over time, due to growing popularity. Calling each new high "record-breaking" is a bit meaningless. Unix timestamp counter breaks record after writing this comment.

It's the tried and true headline method of "event 2 happened after event 1", implying a causal effect between the two, despite no evidence of such effect existing. Technically the headline is correct, in the same way that "Canada Tariffs $20b in US Goods After Amazon Plane Crash" is also correct.

David Hume would argue that the causal effect is never seen between 2 events so what's the difference?
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