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DaVinci Resolve 21.1

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Re: DaVinci Resolve 21.1

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Post by msabalau »

gizmodo59 wrote: post #42
neovive wrote: post #23

I've been using it for many years, and it's grown in power and functionality with every release. BMD has offered free upgrades to Pro users (with no subscription) for many years, which is refreshing given the current state of software licensing. For those upset with the new agent integration, keep in mind that one of the big knocks on DaVinci Resolve is that it's hard for beginners. Powerful tools like color grading…

No offense whatsoever. But this whole line "but it won't replace the real experience and taste required for larger projects" is not how I see it. I wish people are more humble at this juncture of AI progress. This is not to say humans won't play a part but saying xyz cannot be replaced is a big stretch. Saying its not there currently is okay but saying it won't replace I don't see where that's coming from.

The person you are replying to seems to have a depth of experience with editing over many years.

It seems pretty clear that AI capabilities are jagged. There are good reasons to believe based on research and the subjective evaluation of experts who are quite friendly to AI that there are some tasks creative tasks that AI has been really quite good at (totally disrupting stock illustrations) some where it does so much better than typical person, but not nearly as well as well as an expert (song creation) and some where, so far, it pretty much fails, and sees almost no progress even as models get better and better. (long form creative writting). Indeed, writting style sometimes seems to fall backwards with recent releases.

Also, it's subjectively, but commonly held to be true that most of the content created when AI can execute well lack taste, unless the human creating with AI has it. The term "slop" exists and in legible for a reason.

I mean, maybe this is just a question of different people speaking about different time horizons.

But it seems perfectly sensible for someone to say that there is a lot of automation that can happen in the near term, and that they see no reasonable evidence that AI can do interesting or even coherent work this space.

I don't know that shallow accelerationist boosterism (or panicked doomer despair ) that handwaves away the distinctive variations AI performnce is that enlightening.

Re: DaVinci Resolve 21.1

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Post by darinpantley »

cschep wrote: post #41

pacman -S davinci-resolve-free Would be SO sick! I feel like there is such a big appetite for it and people would do the free labor to support it. I wonder what keeps it in this horrible purgatory of install hell.

That's the experience on CachyOS. They package it up for their users and updates just work.

    pacman -S davinci-resolve

Re: DaVinci Resolve 21.1

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Post by AlienRobot »

raincole wrote: post #30

Off topic, but can anyone share their experience with DaVinci Resolve on Linux? It seems that they only officially support Rocky.

I don't know about recent versions, but I managed to install 18 on Linux Mint.

Making it run wasn't easy, and it can't decode MP3 and some video codecs because of licensing issues. It also can't decode WebM. This is kind of a problem because of a lot of free music you can download to add to videos and a lot of video clips you can download from Pexels for example are encoded with codecs it can't decode, so you have to re-encode it with FFMPEG first to a supported codec.

Re: DaVinci Resolve 21.1

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Post by AlienRobot »

rfgplk wrote: post #39

I don't see how companies like this can survive going forwards. DaVinci Resolve is effectively ~200 Astra/Fable prompts, maybe even fewer if you're willing to forgo polish.

LOL. I wish people could make good software that easy!

Re: DaVinci Resolve 21.1

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Post by szszrk »

Anyone knows if there os support for Intel integrated graphics in Resolve now?

I tried it a few times but I think it didn't work at all with those cards.

Re: DaVinci Resolve 21.1

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Post by trentor »

HDThoreaun wrote: post #67
trentor wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because there is no demand for it to be fully handled by AI. Nobody is denying that parts will be handled by AI but that’s also you moving the goal post.

What makes you say that? You think people like paying professionals to edit their videos? Surely some do, but everyone?

Maybe read again.

Re: DaVinci Resolve 21.1

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Post by dbspin »

xattt wrote: post #17
bensyverson wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have videographer friends, and this is exactly what they've been asking for. Their dream is to be able to say "sync the A and B camera footage, chunk the whole interview down into segments, and then pull together the highlights based on this outline." Not every application of AI is "do the creativity for me."

I would not be surprised if engineers who laid the groundwork for this back then would be happy with this workflow. I am reminded of an interview I saw about the Stranger Things intro (before mainstream audiences got weird about the show). The producers wanted a practical effects intro, and consulted with people who actually made 1980s intros the show was trying to replicate. The old guard said the show’s producers w…

The irony being that a lot of older practical VFX artists aren't able to tell when CGI is terrible. They're often so enamored with what the tech enables, that they're the last to see how quickly it becomes shoddy. Not sure what the equivalent of the hedonic treadmill is for CG, but it ages very rapidly, versus the best practical effects which maintain a charming physicality - even when they're no longer convincing.

Re: DaVinci Resolve 21.1

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Post by dbspin »

szszrk wrote: post #86

Anyone knows if there os support for Intel integrated graphics in Resolve now? I tried it a few times but I think it didn't work at all with those cards.

Resolve is extremely RAM hungry. For 4K video I wouldn't want to be editing with less than 12GB of VRAM. I'm guessing that excludes most integrated graphics.

Source - I work as a professional editor (amongst other things). Please commenters, do not come at me with your five minute low bit rate projects that required only a LUT and some contrast and 'worked fine' in DaVinci on a potato.

Re: DaVinci Resolve 21.1

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Post by bel8 »

victorbjorklund wrote: post #72
bel8 wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> ...but for serious work, it will never be a sure shot job handled entirely by AI. Maybe not entirely handed by AI but when AI starts doing it better than most and in a fraction of the time, for a fraction of the cost, why do you think it wont be at least partly delegated to AI? the "never" is what gets me here.

Autopilots have been able to fly planes better than humans at almost zero cost for years yet no one has replaced pilots.

fair but that's also a matter of time, in my opinion.

1) software doesn't commit suicide like some pilots did.

2) software has superhuman reflexes, processing power and are not affected by emotion.

3) software also will eliminate a whole class of failure modes that caused many crashes in the past like: "I won't seek nearest and safer airport because that will be expensive in fuel costs"

4) software is already landing planes and saving lives in the process: https://youtu.be/XawXSLRCM3o

5) Most part of a comercial flight is already controlled by software anyway. Pilots mostly take off/land and input coordinates and altitudes.

6) push for fully automous aircraft during modern war is going to speed up development and test of the tech.

I think it's a matter of time here too.

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