> Delivering the benefits of scientific progress and economic growth that very intelligent machines enable. I think we're very close to the point where AI-driven breakthroughs outside of pure math and software start to really affect the world. We evaluated GPT-6 Astra in 100 complex, unsaturated multi-agent coding environments, competing and cooperating with other models in open-ended tasks. It's the new frontier mod…
An Alien Mind
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#482Earlier quoted context omitted.
Humans had multiple occasions to press the 'launch a nuclear holocaust' button and... they didn't. I'd expect aligned AIs to also not press it even when it'd be rational to do so according to their instructions - then work from there.
Aside from this positive example, during dark and cynical hours I do ponder if the aggregate behavior of humanity is really much above that of slime mold though, just exhausting resources until collapse. It'd be interesting if super-human (to a large degree defined as escaping the bias of the training data?) intelligence would end up demonstrating moderation .
We've been molded by our brain development to make things good enough to survive short-term (to next year). We're very good at planning for winter. We might even react intelligently to a terroristic or rogue state use of atomic weapons.
We've also been molded to plan enough to get our progeny to breeding age. We can enact 10-20yr plans with some skill.
Beyond that range... we have never had evolutionary pressure to think and act on those ranges. "Climate Change will kill our grandkids!" isn't really sufficiently pressuring to us.
The Great Filter of the Fermi Paradox fame may just be: species can easily get to the Atomic Age without adequately planning how to prevent ruining themselves with resource depletion and environmental slow poisoning.
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This is so, painfully, childish. Humans have known for thousands of years that there is no objective truth. Every falsity can be bent and twisted until it is more true than the sun itself.
Your reading comprehension is painfully childish. You're conflating my point of "telling the truth" with objective truth. I was talking about lying. i.e., facing accountability for your actions and not going out of your way to deceive others. Dissonance between what you believe and what you express. Being honest. I think that was fairly clear. > Every falsity can be bent and twisted until it is more true than the sun…
"Mater malum superbia est" (Pride is the mother of all evil), as the medieval Roman Catholic Church knew. Buddha agreed, independently, calling for a reduction of the self to nothing. Jews called it out in Proverbs 16:18: "Pride goes before destruction, a haughty spirit before a fall". Hindus denigrate the "Illusion of Separateness", which is the narcissistic urge.
Lies are not the root of all evil. Why lie? Ego. Honesty requires humility.
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#484Earlier quoted context omitted.
Game mechanics and evolutionary biology would like to have a word with you.
Humans are really the only animal that lies overtly. Other animals deceive via misdirection, but in a world of scarce resources, and where everyone has to play by that game, it's a fair bit easier to justify. Humanity has so much dominion over its environment at this point that there really is no need for resource competition, from a survival perspective. But good luck getting people to all agree to share collectivel…
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I've seen dogs "lie" to me by hiding the snacks they stole. That alone disproves your claim.
I've also seen video of two monkeys hide their mating behavior when the alpha male walks by: their illicit "love" required lying to the only male "allowed" to mate.
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#485> Delivering the benefits of scientific progress and economic growth that very intelligent machines enable. I think we're very close to the point where AI-driven breakthroughs outside of pure math and software start to really affect the world. We evaluated GPT-6 Astra in 100 complex, unsaturated multi-agent coding environments, competing and cooperating with other models in open-ended tasks. It's the new frontier mod…
I work with LLMs daily and recognize the value (for me, it’s speeding up SW development) but I’ve heard the same old song for the past 3 years. It’s getting played out. “But this next thing though! This next thing!”.
Will you say the same thing when the next frontier model releases?
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#486Strangely, it doesn't mention not wrecking humanity or the planet. Considering how so many key figures have called this out, you would think they would at least give lip service to the topic.
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#487Earlier quoted context omitted.
Collectively, humans aren't aligned, and don't build aligned systems. Humans have a concept of alignment, and multiple traditions, practices, and systems that aggressively oppose it. Why would AI be any different?
Humans had multiple occasions to press the 'launch a nuclear holocaust' button and... they didn't. I'd expect aligned AIs to also not press it even when it'd be rational to do so according to their instructions - then work from there.
Even in the short time since we have developed the capability to annihilate ourselves, there have been dozens of accidents, false alarms, and near misses.
I am confident that on a long enough time line we will manage to fuck this up.
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I'm not really worried about the labs, it's misaligned governments that keep me up at night. ASI landing during the current administration is not ideal. I also would prefer to avoid needing to indoctrinate myself in Xi Jinping Thought.
>>> I'm not really worried about the labs, it's misaligned governments that keep me up at night. So make government smaller, and make sure people are more able to tell the government to go away.
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I got that. I'm saying that it is deliberate. Wiggle room et all.
How does not explicitly trying to train the model specifically not to break the law give them any wiggle room if the model then goes and breaks the law?
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Claiming that AI will be valuable in 50 years is you moving the goalposts back 50 years. It’s a strawman argument, no one is saying it won’t be valuable in 50 years
They're saying it's obviously valuable and useful now, but some people absolutely refuse to acknowledge it. And in 50 years, there will still be a contingent who insists that AI is useless garbage, even as it's responsible for creating and maintaining every aspect of their daily lives.