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Re: Every novel is boring until it isn't

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I'd argue that the novels the TFA author reads are boring to the TFA author -- until they're not. If you are reading a novel that works for you, it's often not boring from the opening line. Example: Anna Karenina. Gripping from the opening line (if you like the type of novel that it is; and it's fine if you don't, of course). Or alternatively, Pride and Prejudice. Again, that opener just sucks you in (if this is a bo…

If it isn't one of the greatest books you've ever read, stop reading it.

Re: Every novel is boring until it isn't

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"But I suspect that the reason students are not reading novels is not only that they find novels difficult and boring. It is also that they don’t realize that novels are supposed to feel this way, at least at first."

Eh... some novels remain boring no matter how far I read on.

The author is probably more sensitive to the Stockholm Syndrome and totally unaware of the Sunk Cost fallacy: for such readers, after investing their time, it's cognitive dissonance driving the interest factor.

Of course, even an initially very boring novel might become less boring as one reads on, but this is no argument in favor of it, as it applies to all novels.

However, there are novels that build up such a crescendo intentionally (like the novels by Anthony Trollope). Others maintain an evenness that holds stable throughout the novel (Daniel Defoe), whereas some others, fluctuate irrationally and wildly (Tolstoy).

Classifying all novel 'types' as the same is an elementary mistake.

Re: Every novel is boring until it isn't

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I disagree. Many novels have great openings. "The Horse's Mouth" by Joyce Cary had me from the opening paragraph. I could say the same about "Rebecca" by Daphne du Maurier or "the Crow Road" by Iain Banks. We nicknamed "the Matrix Reloaded", the "Mattress Resprung", because for me it illustrated a major problem in films and books... The beginning and end are great but they sag in the middle like an old mattress.

> It was the day my grandmother exploded.

Probably Banks's most memorable opening line. Love Crow Road... Have you seen the tv adaptation? I keep meaning to watch it.

Re: Every novel is boring until it isn't

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It took me more than a week to go through the first chapter in the first Harry Potter book. It took me 4 days to finish the rest. This is because the pacing was wrong - the first chapter should have been the last.

Really? I thought the first Harry Potter book was very engaging. The second book had more dry spots for me.

Oh, for sure. It's phenomenally engaging. The main issue is that the first chapter is essentially a fly on the night sky, watching the events that happened on the day that Harry Potter's parents were murdered.

Super cool, but absolutely meaningless the first time you read the book because you don't know it yet.

I think chapters one—sorry, chapters two and three is mostly Harry getting his letter and the various hi-jinx that Uncle Vernon goes through to avoid the owls finding Harry at increasingly improbable addresses where somehow the owls still find Harry.

Then Hagrid shows up and explains to Harry that you are a wizard. And for 13-year-old me, that was off to the races.

Re: Every novel is boring until it isn't

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I disagree. Many novels have great openings. "The Horse's Mouth" by Joyce Cary had me from the opening paragraph. I could say the same about "Rebecca" by Daphne du Maurier or "the Crow Road" by Iain Banks. We nicknamed "the Matrix Reloaded", the "Mattress Resprung", because for me it illustrated a major problem in films and books... The beginning and end are great but they sag in the middle like an old mattress.

> It was the day my grandmother exploded. Probably Banks's most memorable opening line. Love Crow Road... Have you seen the tv adaptation? I keep meaning to watch it.

Thank you for being the only one to include the opening line of a book to pique my interest. And piqued it is. I have enjoyed The Wasp Factory (haven't read his scifi yet), and this sounds as exciting.

I should really give Consider Phlebas another go.

Re: Every novel is boring until it isn't

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There was a rule a fourth grade teacher of mine had that she used in her English class to try and get some of the less literate kids up to par. That rule was embodied by the name she gave it, "Thirty minutes thirty pages." She gave them thirty minutes to read thirty pages of a book. A minute a page. Considering most of them were choosing things like Goosebumps that were only a hundred and twenty pages or so it was an…

I consider myself a slow reader so I am interested in this pacing rule. Do you remember how the pacing was enforced? Were there like minute sandtimers or was it just kind of like a 30 minute timer and you either met the pace or didn't?

All classrooms had a clock in them at the school that was hooked up to the PA system so it was easy to time it. Once a week, usually Fridays barring any holidays or school events during her class, she would run the first fifteen minutes of the class going over what we were to do for the weekend which was usually homework, and then for the last thirty minutes we'd do the reading. We were required to bookmark where we left off and where we ended, and she'd actually watch us to make sure we were reading rather than just flipping pages.
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