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Among European Companies That Use a CDN, Nearly 9 in 10 Use Cloudflare

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Re: Among European Companies That Use a CDN, Nearly 9 in 10 Use Cloudflare

#182
I was looking into the IPv6 adoption of US government websites (https://community.ipinfo.io/t/the-state-of-ipv6-across-us-go...) when we discovered that Cloudflare had essentially dethroned Akamai for government content hosting over a number of years. The post primarily focuses on IPv6, but according to our data, Cloudflare hosts 70% of US government websites.

Re: Among European Companies That Use a CDN, Nearly 9 in 10 Use Cloudflare

#183
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https://eualternative.eu/categories/cdn/

Bunny is the MVP among these European alternatives. It's not just a CDN, it offers Cloudflare-style Edge scripting, Edge workers, databases (Sqlite compatible) etc.

MVP would be widely understood on this forum to mean "Minimum Viable Product", I don't think that's what you meant. Options are always good to have.

Re: Among European Companies That Use a CDN, Nearly 9 in 10 Use Cloudflare

#184
What are some EU based alternatives?

Edit: I found https://european-alternatives.eu/alternative-to/cloudflare , which lists among others: https://bunny.net/ , https://www.keycdn.com/ , https://blazingcdn.com/ , https://www.myrasecurity.com/en/product-content-delivery-net..., https://www.leaseweb.com/cdn . If anyone has any personal experiences with any of these please share.

Re: Among European Companies That Use a CDN, Nearly 9 in 10 Use Cloudflare

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The NSA collects and archives all internet traffic it can access for future analysis. It's the purpose of the Utah Data center. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utah_Data_Center

There’s no way a single datacenter costing a couple of billion dollars can store “all Internet traffic the NSA can access”, unless the traffic the NSA can access is a microscopic fraction of the total Internet traffic. Think about it. The Internet runs on tens of thousands of massive datacenters. Thousands are being built as we speak. Obviously a single datacenter cannot hold an appreciable fraction of that. BTW, the…

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fairview_%28surveillance_progr...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Room_641A

Public information shows that the NSA has been active intercepting as much data as possible.

It doesn't require the budget of a FAANG to peek through a significant volume of internet data.

Re: Among European Companies That Use a CDN, Nearly 9 in 10 Use Cloudflare

#186
When someone says cloudflare is too good / cheap to be true... maybe think about it.

They have shareholders, who wouldn't allow them to provide value for free, its just not obvious to you how they are extracting that value. Maybe its by capturing a huge % of unencrypted https traffic because if you let them do your certs it means they can read all your real traffic.

Re: Among European Companies That Use a CDN, Nearly 9 in 10 Use Cloudflare

#187

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Please speak for yourself. Not everyone in Europe thinks US is bigger problem than China. For many China is far bigger geopolitical threat since they openly support Russia in its current war.

Honestly, I had the impression that the current US regime also supports Russia in its current war. Did they not ask Ukraine to give the already occupied land and then some? As far as I remember, that was in a form almost like an ultimatum, too. China might be a bigger threat, but I find it hard to believe that this would be the reason.

> Did they not ask Ukraine to give the already occupied land and then some?

Ukraine is never going to retake the territory they've lost without European soldiers on the ground. Macron famously said that he would have to send troops to Odesa and yet 3 years later there are still no French troops in Ukraine. Meanwhile Putin has captured even more land and is now actively bombarding Kyiv.

It is painfully obvious that Europe lacks the political will to do any kind of substantial intervention. The war is at a complete standstill and it will last for another horrible decade if no concessions are made.

It's the unfortunate reality of the situation.

Re: Among European Companies That Use a CDN, Nearly 9 in 10 Use Cloudflare

#188
If, for a moment, we set aside the fact that Europe is strongly incentivised to depend less on the US, and US companies, it should worry us that so many sectors are dominated by 1-3 or so players. One of the selling points for market capitalism, which we at least pretend to believe in, is efficient allocation of resources through competition. But when the market is dominated by de facto monopolies there exists no real competition and there is no real market.

Even in the previous political climate this should, objectively, be deemed a problem. Having 90% of all eggs in one basket is neither good, nor does it constitute functioning market.

I'm not sure what the Cloudflare market share is in the US, but if it is the same as in Europe, this is a problem for US companies as well.

Re: Among European Companies That Use a CDN, Nearly 9 in 10 Use Cloudflare

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post #176
post #167

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The NSA collects and archives all internet traffic it can access for future analysis. It's the purpose of the Utah Data center. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utah_Data_Center

There’s no way a single datacenter costing a couple of billion dollars can store “all Internet traffic the NSA can access”, unless the traffic the NSA can access is a microscopic fraction of the total Internet traffic. Think about it. The Internet runs on tens of thousands of massive datacenters. Thousands are being built as we speak. Obviously a single datacenter cannot hold an appreciable fraction of that. BTW, the…

“They’re not as good at violating your civil liberties as you think they are” isn’t very comforting. They are still doing it at scale and i’m not too keen on opening the back door for them myself.

Re: Among European Companies That Use a CDN, Nearly 9 in 10 Use Cloudflare

#190
> I only counted companies that actually run a CDN. If a company serves its site straight from its own origin, it is not in these numbers at all

Doesn't this miss websites that serve their own site html but serve (static) assets from a CDN.

This seems to be a common pattern with Wordpress sites, presumably because it makes cache configuration simpler

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