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We have a year to fix security everywhere

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Re: We have a year to fix security everywhere

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I don't think we even have a year. The current batch of LLMs are ferociously good at identifying vulnerabilities.

Thankfully we have already made good progress towards things like arm memory tagging and memory safe languages.

It’s a rocky period right now but the future will be much more secure after all the low hanging fruit are found.

Re: We have a year to fix security everywhere

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Here's an idea: as a first step, simplify everything, and make sure you're aware how your stack works, and what it imports. As an example: WordPress is a horrible thing, but the core has been through so much, that it's suprisingly secure. Then plugins and themes come, and whoosh, the security is gone. We need a new KISS: keep it simple, stupid, secure.

The "surprisingly secure" WordPress just had a unauthenticated RCE earlier this year. Just simplifying isn't going to be enough. https://nvd.nist.gov/vuln/detail/cve-2026-63030

"First step"

Nobody said it's enough, but it's a start.

Re: We have a year to fix security everywhere

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It's just the same advice as ever: be extremely, exceedingly careful in what you expose to any network. When I set up machines for production, they don't respond to pings and they don't even have an SSH port open without knocking. There are also ways to eschew the need for an SSH port entirely. People who never took that seriously will never take this seriously either, and that's their loss. (And loss of the commons,…

That’s fine for your home server, but if you want an actual server that the general public can use, it has to be exposed to the internet.

Re: We have a year to fix security everywhere

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post #5

I don't think we even have a year. The current batch of LLMs are ferociously good at identifying vulnerabilities.

Being cautious is a good thing, but these models can also do some good. And if they run with simpler HW, it could allow all sorts of new consumer thingies. I mean, the world will not come to end in the coming year.

Re: We have a year to fix security everywhere

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post #30

I think we have less time and the only remaining limitation is the actual cost to run such hacking campaigns. It does not appear expensive, but is not free, and there is a LOT of things to scan for vulnerabilities. The models are already here, and one can rent a GPU cluster to run such workloads at speed - no need to play with slow local machines. I'd assume one can host the thinking at an unsuspected public cloud pr…

The point of the local model in the context of the article was to argue that you can't ban these capabilities.

Making datacenters and public clouds only rent GPUs to a restricted list of people, while tightly monitoring what people do with their bought resources won't help.

Re: We have a year to fix security everywhere

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post #21

Just like Cryptolocker, this will be the "Finding Out" phase for everyone who has been putting off best practice security. But, lets be clear, Best Practice will save you. We can engineer assuming there are zero days in path. Go to your CTO now cap in hand and ask for overlapping controls, wafs, application monitoring, backups and all the other shit you haven't been doing. Because when you find out, I will laugh, it…

Meanwhile a huge portion of management and leadership in software companies are encouraging everyone to de facto stop looking at code and let the LLM and a bunch of boundaries handle this for you.

Which is why you need someone who is responsible for IT security without also being responsible for shipping product. An asshole who can stop releases until security is properly in place.

My understanding is this bloke gets very quickly removed from Fortune 500 companies.

Which is why I am going to need a very large capacity popcorn bucket.

Re: We have a year to fix security everywhere

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Zzzzz, we should have gotten security right a few decades ago. But security costs money and isn't a flashy feature to attract new customers, or cuts into your margin if you're a "real" business producing stuff or offering some service. Or whatever the decision makers in Berlin were thinking when they ignored security.

Yeah, we would still see hacks, but we would see less of them if security wasn't optional.

Maybe the AI craze helps by forcing more decision makes to see security as imperative, and by giving us another powerful tool for our tool box.

N.b.: I work in the security industry, our customers obviously want to improve their security. We've been seeing an uptick in awareness, but that's mostly due to NIS2 and other legislative efforts. Those force them to do something. AI is a curiosity for small talk to many of them.

Re: We have a year to fix security everywhere

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Or we could just dump Linux and Windows and switch to a microkernel operating system, which is much more secure. These endless patching cycles are simply not going to work in the long run. Operating systems get orphaned all the time, especially the ones in cheap Chinese stuff.

Got any leads on good tutorials on how to use a microkernel operating system on a VPS somewhere to host a website?

Minix can run Ngnix.
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