Arm Mali G2-Ultra NX GPU: desktop-class mobile gameplay with AI-native graphics

bigbaguette wrote: post #3

eptcyka wrote: post #2

What about support in mesa?

Give it a couple years before Valve starts sponsoring someone to reverse-engineer it

I do not understand why vendors believe their software stack is a moat. It is an obstacle to me.

Re: Arm Mali G2-Ultra NX GPU: desktop-class mobile gameplay with AI-native graphics

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Post by krautsauer » Tue, Sep 08, 2026, 4:58 AM UTC

eptcyka wrote: post #4

bigbaguette wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Give it a couple years before Valve starts sponsoring someone to reverse-engineer it

I do not understand why vendors believe their software stack is a moat. It is an obstacle to me.

opens wikipedia (Emphasis mine:)

> Moats were excavated around castles and other fortifications as part of the defensive system as an obstacle immediately outside the walls.

Unfortunate wording?

Re: Arm Mali G2-Ultra NX GPU: desktop-class mobile gameplay with AI-native graphics

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Post by ksec » Tue, Sep 08, 2026, 5:10 AM UTC

With IMG PowerVR mostly gone from Mediatek roadmap. Which means ARM Mali is effectively the GPU IP on Android, excluding Qualcomm Adreno which its market continue to shrink and concentrate on premium segment.

I wonder how far or how good Mali is now compared to others. I wish Chip and Cheese do compassion on GPU as well.

Re: Arm Mali G2-Ultra NX GPU: desktop-class mobile gameplay with AI-native graphics

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Post by dbdr » Tue, Sep 08, 2026, 5:15 AM UTC

krautsauer wrote: post #5

eptcyka wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I do not understand why vendors believe their software stack is a moat. It is an obstacle to me.

opens wikipedia (Emphasis mine:) > Moats were excavated around castles and other fortifications as part of the defensive system as an obstacle immediately outside the walls. Unfortunate wording?

Moats are supposed to be obstacles for your competitors, not your consumers.

Re: Arm Mali G2-Ultra NX GPU: desktop-class mobile gameplay with AI-native graphics

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Post by teki_one » Tue, Sep 08, 2026, 5:34 AM UTC

ksec wrote: post #6

With IMG PowerVR mostly gone from Mediatek roadmap. Which means ARM Mali is effectively the GPU IP on Android, excluding Qualcomm Adreno which its market continue to shrink and concentrate on premium segment. I wonder how far or how good Mali is now compared to others. I wish Chip and Cheese do compassion on GPU as well.

Google just switched to PowerVR, didn't they?

Re: Arm Mali G2-Ultra NX GPU: desktop-class mobile gameplay with AI-native graphics

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Post by cubefox » Tue, Sep 08, 2026, 5:54 AM UTC

This should have happened years ago.

Re: Arm Mali G2-Ultra NX GPU: desktop-class mobile gameplay with AI-native graphics

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Post by throwa356262 » Tue, Sep 08, 2026, 6:00 AM UTC

teki_one wrote: post #8

ksec wrote: post #6

With IMG PowerVR mostly gone from Mediatek roadmap. Which means ARM Mali is effectively the GPU IP on Android, excluding Qualcomm Adreno which its market continue to shrink and concentrate on premium segment. I wonder how far or how good Mali is now compared to others. I wish Chip and Cheese do compassion on GPU as well.

Google just switched to PowerVR, didn't they?

Given the horrible GPU performance as well as thermal issues in Tensor G5 and G6, Google will have to switch back to Arm in G7.

Example benchmark showing how extremely far Google is behind:

    GeekBench 6 Compute Score (GPU):
    Xring O3.             36901.    (the GPU in this announcement)
    Snapdragon 8 Elite G5 27501.    (Adreno 840)
    Dimensity 9500M.      23753.    (Mali-G1 Ultra MP11).
    Tensor G6.            6216.     (PowerVR CXTP-48-1536)