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Re: De-Brainrot Vacations

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Post by pnexk »

boudin wrote: post #38
FinnLobsien wrote: post #18

I think the „my brain isn’t the same anymore“ sensation is pretty universal. Between addictive online media in our personal lives and AI at work, I think we’ve made mental effort largely optional. That must be a horrible thing. One of my favorite theories is the physical activity transition. In my grandparents‘ generation, physical movement became more optional as work shifted from manual labor to knowledge work or o…

I have another suggestion which doesn't contradict yours. When I was younger I used to get bored way more often. I had to wait regularly during a week (e.g. for a bus, friend, appointment) or even at work as a software dev (e.g. compilation which used to take more time). This was also the case when doing some physical activities which didn't require lot of thoughts. Back then, before mobile phones with internet acces…

This concept of lack of boreness along with mention of studies was covered in a book called The Comfort Crisis by Michael Easter (2021) that made me think about it a lot since I came across it. Amazing to see someone organically mention their experience about something similar.

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Post by ponector »

visarga wrote: post #105
herbertl wrote: post #83

"Fifteen years ago, the internet was an escape from the real world. Now the real world is an escape from the internet." https://www.noahpinion.blog/p/the-internet-wants-to-be-fragm...

7.5 years ago it was perfect

It was perfect when the only way to connect to the internet was a computer.

Smartphones ruined it.

Re: De-Brainrot Vacations

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Post by lanamo »

boudin wrote: post #38
FinnLobsien wrote: post #18

I think the „my brain isn’t the same anymore“ sensation is pretty universal. Between addictive online media in our personal lives and AI at work, I think we’ve made mental effort largely optional. That must be a horrible thing. One of my favorite theories is the physical activity transition. In my grandparents‘ generation, physical movement became more optional as work shifted from manual labor to knowledge work or o…

I have another suggestion which doesn't contradict yours. When I was younger I used to get bored way more often. I had to wait regularly during a week (e.g. for a bus, friend, appointment) or even at work as a software dev (e.g. compilation which used to take more time). This was also the case when doing some physical activities which didn't require lot of thoughts. Back then, before mobile phones with internet acces…

Walter Benjamin basically predicted this in The Storyteller (1936) — nearly a century before smartphones:

> "If sleep is the apogee of physical relaxation, boredom is the apogee of mental relaxation. Boredom is the dream bird that hatches the egg of experience. A rustling in the leaves drives him away."

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Post by underlipton »

airstrike wrote: post #75
underlipton wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think the anti-intellectualism crisis gets mischaracterized. Common rejection of experts, academia, and empirical findings is certainly a part of it, but I tend to see more of an issue with targeted, self-serving ignorance, particularly among the elite. You have extremely intelligent and influential people balking at, say, the undeniable net benefits of universal healthcare, renewable energy investment, and cash pa…

I'm sorry but just because I disagree with cash payment UBI doesn't mean I'm not anti-intellectual. Surely that much ought to be clear if you give it a little more thought, no pun intended.

This is the anti-intellectualism I'm talking about. You're disagreeing based on vibes and not facts. Disagreement shouldn't even come into the conversation; falsify the net positive effects.

The research is clear that most of the negative effects that most expect cash payment UBI to have don't ever actually appear. Employment goes up (except where recipients use the flexibility to return to school), productivity goes up; the money doesn't get "wasted" on drugs, and it doesn't pump landlord pockets. Giving people the money necessary to participate in the economy increases participation in the economy.

Re: De-Brainrot Vacations

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Post by jhu247 »

one thing we've started to do is "90s vacations", which is while on vacation pretend screens don't exist, or just minimally as they did in the 90s. bring analog things like books, journals, board games, knitting. after a while it resets dopamine and daydreaming becomes natural and enjoyable. it's made vacations more fun and present, while doubling as a dose of healthy nostalgia too

Re: De-Brainrot Vacations

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Post by airstrike »

underlipton wrote: post #195
airstrike wrote: post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm sorry but just because I disagree with cash payment UBI doesn't mean I'm not anti-intellectual. Surely that much ought to be clear if you give it a little more thought, no pun intended.

This is the anti-intellectualism I'm talking about. You're disagreeing based on vibes and not facts. Disagreement shouldn't even come into the conversation; falsify the net positive effects. The research is clear that most of the negative effects that most expect cash payment UBI to have don't ever actually appear. Employment goes up (except where recipients use the flexibility to return to school), productivity goes…

No, I'm not disagreeing based on vibes. I'm disagreeing based on my deep understanding of business and economics.

You're assuming you already know what my objections are and defending against them, when I haven't even said anything specific. Now _that_ is anti-intellectual.

The research isn't clear. It's near impossible to model the effect of UBI on the population at large by running a study with N people who know they're going back to normal at the end of the study.

Many have attempted to "give people money" before. It has invariably failed and resulted in inflation.

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Post by duggable »

alex_suzuki wrote: post #186
duggable wrote: post #185

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Beginner question, do you use a snorkel for this? I’d love to get into regular swimming myself but not sure if I’d be a dork showing up at the pool with a snorkel. Freestyling with the breathing movements would take too much focus I think.

Sorry, I guess that was confusing. I still turn my head at 3 or 5 strokes to breathe. But with some routine, the breathing movements become second nature and it feels like I’m looking down most of the time. But I do see other swimmers use a snorkel mask for a few of their sets.

Thanks for the info!

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Post by underlipton »

airstrike wrote: post #197
underlipton wrote: post #195

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is the anti-intellectualism I'm talking about. You're disagreeing based on vibes and not facts. Disagreement shouldn't even come into the conversation; falsify the net positive effects. The research is clear that most of the negative effects that most expect cash payment UBI to have don't ever actually appear. Employment goes up (except where recipients use the flexibility to return to school), productivity goes…

No, I'm not disagreeing based on vibes. I'm disagreeing based on my deep understanding of business and economics. You're assuming you already know what my objections are and defending against them, when I haven't even said anything specific. Now _that_ is anti-intellectual. The research isn't clear. It's near impossible to model the effect of UBI on the population at large by running a study with N people who know th…

I know what the common objections are, and I actually addressed the one you mention: in actual UBI pilot programs, there was no resultant inflation.

If you have objections that weren't among the ones stated earlier, you can state them now. If you think that there are better examples of the results likely to be produced by a non-pilot UBI program, you should detail their circumstances and how they're more applicable than the pilot programs, instead of waving vaguely at instances where "many have attempted to 'give people money' before", as if that's a panacea. Because it's not; it's precisely the vibes-based anti-intellectualism I spoke of.

The issue is that you probably can't, because UBI's efficacious nature has been proven rigorously. It would be nice if we could just get on with implementing it.

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Post by etrautmann »

carlosjobim wrote: post #157
SjokoladeIsHare wrote: post #144

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> just sleep and wake up This is my default experience. Falling asleep, then waking up an unknown amount of time later as if nothing happened. Maybe I don’t pay attention to my dreams

If that's the case, you are missing the most important aspect of your life.

I don’t remember my dreams most nights and that’s always been the case. When I do it’s fairly disconnected and random vignettes without discernible meaning. So I’m missing one of the most important aspects of my life? I guess it’s possible but it’s hard to feel that way without having experienced profound dreams.
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