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Re: Apparently CodePen 2.0 sends data to their servers as you type

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Post by aveao »

davidmurdoch wrote: post #34
nusl wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Shopify does this. If you ever go to purchase a product on a Shopify 'site, and enter eg your e-mail address, it'll save it even if you decide to cancel and close the tab. Sometimes you receive spam from companies along the lines of marketing or "we noticed you didn't complete your purchase" type crap. Shit is rly invasive.

They can only send the marketing emails if you have the "send me marketing emails" checkbox checked when you type in your email address. Dark pattern, yeah.

Isn't the email at the top of the form and the marketing checkbox at the bottom? It's an awful dark pattern and makes me want to not use any company that uses shopify.

They require your full address to show you shipping prices as well (vs just letting you estimate with country and postal code alone), so I have to punch in a ton of details before I nope out at awful shipping costs, and I end up with these emails.

Re: Apparently CodePen 2.0 sends data to their servers as you type

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Post by davidmurdoch »

xingped wrote: post #49
davidmurdoch wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They can only send the marketing emails if you have the "send me marketing emails" checkbox checked when you type in your email address. Dark pattern, yeah.

That has never stopped companies from spamming me with marketing even when I didn't agree or even explicitly disagreed (unchecked). Not a single company has been or ever will be held accountable so they just keep doing it.

Shopify 's "abandoned cart" emails are legally considered transactional emails, not marketing, which is probably what you're getting. It's a feature built in to Shopify. If the email isn't related to your abandoned cart contents, you can report it to Shopify. Shopify will investigate reports of abuse and eventually will terminate a store account for blatant abuse.

Re: Apparently CodePen 2.0 sends data to their servers as you type

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Post by davidmurdoch »

aveao wrote: post #51
davidmurdoch wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They can only send the marketing emails if you have the "send me marketing emails" checkbox checked when you type in your email address. Dark pattern, yeah.

Isn't the email at the top of the form and the marketing checkbox at the bottom? It's an awful dark pattern and makes me want to not use any company that uses shopify. They require your full address to show you shipping prices as well (vs just letting you estimate with country and postal code alone), so I have to punch in a ton of details before I nope out at awful shipping costs, and I end up with these emails.

No. For Shopify's checkout, it's directly beneath the email input.

You're probably getting the "abandon cart" emails, which is legally considered a "transactional email", and doesn't require consent.

Re: Apparently CodePen 2.0 sends data to their servers as you type

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Post by leptons »

traviswingo wrote: post #44
giancarlostoro wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't know why anyone would paste or type secrets into codepen which is public by default... But it always seemed like it auto-saved / sent your code over to the back-end, going back ten years roughly?

Copy -> paste -> redact secrets That flow would be considered unsafe, and probably common.

It's also a foolish thing to do. Any time anyone types anything into anywhere on any webpage, that data is as good as gone, it's out there. Back in the 90's I experimented with per-character logging on all form input boxes, just because I could. That's still possible today.

Re: Apparently CodePen 2.0 sends data to their servers as you type

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Post by millerm »

Reddit does this. Every keystroke you type into a comment box is sent back to them. So, that means even if you decided to cancel posting something, they still receive what you wrote. I have been known to write responses that were harsh and angry, and I simply don't send. Sometimes it's therapy for me to think through something while typing whatever is in my head. Then I go back and edit once I have have thought it through. I don't want that info sent back. So, I tend to not involve myself with much online anymore. I don't want to expose myself to the thought police.

I find the browser the most unsafe piece of tech deployed.

Re: Apparently CodePen 2.0 sends data to their servers as you type

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Post by c-hendricks »

millerm wrote: post #58

Reddit does this. Every keystroke you type into a comment box is sent back to them. So, that means even if you decided to cancel posting something, they still receive what you wrote. I have been known to write responses that were harsh and angry, and I simply don't send. Sometimes it's therapy for me to think through something while typing whatever is in my head. Then I go back and edit once I have have thought it th…

Ever since I learned about full story / datadog RUM I've been writing my replies in a notes app then copy and pasting back in the browser
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