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Tell HN: OpenAI brings back 5 hour limit for plus and business standard users

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Re: Tell HN: OpenAI brings back 5 hour limit for plus and business standard users

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Post by geraldwhen »

solenoid0937 wrote: post #26
paxys wrote: post #17

People should realize by now that they aren't giving out thousands of dollars worth of compute in a $20 subscription out of the goodness of their hearts. The base level plans aren't meant for any kind of serious work beyond the equivalent of Google searches. At best treat it like a trial.

I hope everyone recognized the cheap tokens as a transparent ploy to gain more users before jacking up prices. This was obvious from day one.

They won’t be able to. Open models exist and run on a Mac you can buy now or in October.

Re: Tell HN: OpenAI brings back 5 hour limit for plus and business standard users

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Post by recursive »

PaywallBuster wrote: post #6

This allows users to pace their subscription usage to last the whole week. I've had few weekends where I spend the full week credits over night then have nothing to do for a week

It might be good to have at least two hobbies.

Re: Tell HN: OpenAI brings back 5 hour limit for plus and business standard users

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Post by johnnyApplePRNG »

CSMastermind wrote: post #27

Once they capature enough marketshare prices and restrictions are both going to skyrocket. The difference between the subscription usage and API pricing are stark.

That's the fever-dream that OpenAI et al is fraudulently marketing to their investors I suspect, yes.

Re: Tell HN: OpenAI brings back 5 hour limit for plus and business standard users

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Post by jamesriso »

CSMastermind wrote: post #27

Once they capature enough marketshare prices and restrictions are both going to skyrocket. The difference between the subscription usage and API pricing are stark.

This is interesting to think about. There's so much competition among the frontier labs and from outside via open source it just doesn't seem obvious to me they could maintain elevated prices

Re: Tell HN: OpenAI brings back 5 hour limit for plus and business standard users

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Post by kraftman »

paxys wrote: post #17

People should realize by now that they aren't giving out thousands of dollars worth of compute in a $20 subscription out of the goodness of their hearts. The base level plans aren't meant for any kind of serious work beyond the equivalent of Google searches. At best treat it like a trial.

Is it not due to the all the user data they are gathering?

Re: Tell HN: OpenAI brings back 5 hour limit for plus and business standard users

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Post by fny »

solenoid0937 wrote: post #26
paxys wrote: post #17

People should realize by now that they aren't giving out thousands of dollars worth of compute in a $20 subscription out of the goodness of their hearts. The base level plans aren't meant for any kind of serious work beyond the equivalent of Google searches. At best treat it like a trial.

I hope everyone recognized the cheap tokens as a transparent ploy to gain more users before jacking up prices. This was obvious from day one.

I hope everyone recognizes they aim to make you dependent on their intelligence rather than your own.

Re: Tell HN: OpenAI brings back 5 hour limit for plus and business standard users

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Post by flir »

solenoid0937 wrote: post #26
paxys wrote: post #17

People should realize by now that they aren't giving out thousands of dollars worth of compute in a $20 subscription out of the goodness of their hearts. The base level plans aren't meant for any kind of serious work beyond the equivalent of Google searches. At best treat it like a trial.

I hope everyone recognized the cheap tokens as a transparent ploy to gain more users before jacking up prices. This was obvious from day one.

Or more efficient models/faster hardware close the gap between here and profitability.

I wouldn't be surprised if every $10 you add to the subscription cost halves your audience.

Re: Tell HN: OpenAI brings back 5 hour limit for plus and business standard users

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Post by [deleted] »

kraftman wrote: post #35
paxys wrote: post #17

People should realize by now that they aren't giving out thousands of dollars worth of compute in a $20 subscription out of the goodness of their hearts. The base level plans aren't meant for any kind of serious work beyond the equivalent of Google searches. At best treat it like a trial.

Is it not due to the all the user data they are gathering?

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Re: Tell HN: OpenAI brings back 5 hour limit for plus and business standard users

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Post by apparent »

geraldwhen wrote: post #31
solenoid0937 wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I hope everyone recognized the cheap tokens as a transparent ploy to gain more users before jacking up prices. This was obvious from day one.

They won’t be able to. Open models exist and run on a Mac you can buy now or in October.

The audience for this sort of thing is currently quite limited. It may grow more in the future, especially if prices get out of control, but for now, it's a relatively small subset of people.

Re: Tell HN: OpenAI brings back 5 hour limit for plus and business standard users

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Post by jonpurdy »

Controversial take but this works better for me than just the weekly limit. I have about 1-2 hours of sustained focus per 5 hour period so if I run out of tokens then I can take a break and start again in a few hours. Or just use the top ups that I’ve paid for in case I want to push through.

Having just the weekly limit meant I could blow through too much within the first couple of days. Fortunately, resets were raining down during that time.

(I know I could just vibe code a tracker that splits up my usage into arbitrary periods and lets me know when to take a break. Maybe if they remove the 5-hour limit again.)

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