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Tell HN: OpenAI brings back 5 hour limit for plus and business standard users

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Re: Tell HN: OpenAI brings back 5 hour limit for plus and business standard users

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post #5

Session limits are obnoxious and make Codex much less useful for me. I tend to code in spurts when I find some time and the $20 weekly limit was reasonable for my side projects. I'm now hitting the session limits which means I can either purchase another plan, upgrade, or move off of Codex.

The equivalent alternative is not "no hourly limits", it's simply less overall weekly allowance for Plus users, or higher prices overall. It's a way to balance a scarce resource, and maybe the least frustrating one?

People have a fair chance to learn resource management in 5 hour chunks, while not being limited to silly models, and burning through all tokens in the first hour of the week. Seems mostly good.

Re: Tell HN: OpenAI brings back 5 hour limit for plus and business standard users

#16
post #10

In hindsight, this makes more sense with the release of Astra. The $100/mo is now a more compelling upsell.

I went another way and signed up for a opencode go subscription on the side.

Opencode Go's value is pretty poor these days. It was better a month or two ago.

Re: Tell HN: OpenAI brings back 5 hour limit for plus and business standard users

#17
People should realize by now that they aren't giving out thousands of dollars worth of compute in a $20 subscription out of the goodness of their hearts. The base level plans aren't meant for any kind of serious work beyond the equivalent of Google searches. At best treat it like a trial.

Re: Tell HN: OpenAI brings back 5 hour limit for plus and business standard users

#18

Clearly, the prices and limitations will increase with time if they don't find an efficient way to perform training and inference of LLMs. It would be great to see those issues being seriously addressed and, eventually, being fixed for good. THAT would definitely make an important and practical difference. Not only economically but also scientifically.

I always wonder where the people are who continually claim that this whole thing is already profitable are when prices are increased or services cut.

Re: Tell HN: OpenAI brings back 5 hour limit for plus and business standard users

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post #16
post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I went another way and signed up for a opencode go subscription on the side.

Opencode Go's value is pretty poor these days. It was better a month or two ago.

What changed, increased quantization and reduced context windows?

Re: Tell HN: OpenAI brings back 5 hour limit for plus and business standard users

#20
post #5

Session limits are obnoxious and make Codex much less useful for me. I tend to code in spurts when I find some time and the $20 weekly limit was reasonable for my side projects. I'm now hitting the session limits which means I can either purchase another plan, upgrade, or move off of Codex.

The equivalent alternative is not "no hourly limits", it's simply less overall weekly allowance for Plus users, or higher prices overall. It's a way to balance a scarce resource, and maybe the least frustrating one? People have a fair chance to learn resource management in 5 hour chunks, while not being limited to silly models, and burning through all tokens in the first hour of the week. Seems mostly good.

> Seems mostly good

What's not good for the customer is the constant change of rules. It is bait & switch.

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