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Bill Gates tries to install MovieMaker (2003)

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Re: Bill Gates tries to install MovieMaker (2003)

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Post by johnnyApplePRNG »

kylecazar wrote: post #25
johnnyApplePRNG wrote: post #6

Read it. Stopped halfway through thinking "Damn, this Mike Beckerman is a piece of work. Doesn't understand English grammar let alone software development." Looked him up... >Michael Beckerman is an American lobbyist who is vice president at TikTok. Not surprising at all.

That must be a different Michael Beckerman. This one was an executive at Microsoft in 2002...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Beckerman graduated in 2001, although it says nothing of any employment at Microsoft on his Wikipedia page... so you might be right?

Re: Bill Gates tries to install MovieMaker (2003)

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Post by herodotus »

colechristensen wrote: post #28

The reason why Apple won is Steve Jobs cared about quality and was an asshole about it and the inertia from that after his death has not entirely decayed yet. The people in that thread need a good Linus Torvalds style rant about their incompetence and several of them should just have been fired.

Yes. When I was working at Apple, I was developing some animation stuff for Keynote. I came in to work one day, and my build was broken completely. Turned out that Roger Rosner had demonstrated this animation feature to Steve Jobs. Steve Jobs hated it, and before then end of the evening the code had been stripped from the Keynote build.

Re: Bill Gates tries to install MovieMaker (2003)

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Post by colinhb »

johnnyApplePRNG wrote: post #6

Read it. Stopped halfway through thinking "Damn, this Mike Beckerman is a piece of work. Doesn't understand English grammar let alone software development." Looked him up... >Michael Beckerman is an American lobbyist who is vice president at TikTok. Not surprising at all.

Wrong Michael Beckerman. Source: I know the TikTok Beckerman, but not the MSFT one.

Re: Bill Gates tries to install MovieMaker (2003)

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Post by [deleted] »

johnnyApplePRNG wrote: post #31
kylecazar wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That must be a different Michael Beckerman. This one was an executive at Microsoft in 2002...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Beckerman graduated in 2001, although it says nothing of any employment at Microsoft on his Wikipedia page... so you might be right?

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Re: Bill Gates tries to install MovieMaker (2003)

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Post by colechristensen »

herodotus wrote: post #32
colechristensen wrote: post #28

The reason why Apple won is Steve Jobs cared about quality and was an asshole about it and the inertia from that after his death has not entirely decayed yet. The people in that thread need a good Linus Torvalds style rant about their incompetence and several of them should just have been fired.

Yes. When I was working at Apple, I was developing some animation stuff for Keynote. I came in to work one day, and my build was broken completely. Turned out that Roger Rosner had demonstrated this animation feature to Steve Jobs. Steve Jobs hated it, and before then end of the evening the code had been stripped from the Keynote build.

How did/do you feel about that?

Re: Bill Gates tries to install MovieMaker (2003)

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Post by herodotus »

colechristensen wrote: post #36
herodotus wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes. When I was working at Apple, I was developing some animation stuff for Keynote. I came in to work one day, and my build was broken completely. Turned out that Roger Rosner had demonstrated this animation feature to Steve Jobs. Steve Jobs hated it, and before then end of the evening the code had been stripped from the Keynote build.

How did/do you feel about that?

Good. One of the things I loved about my years working at Apple is that everyone I had dealings with really cared about the user experience.

Re: Bill Gates tries to install MovieMaker (2003)

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Post by dekhn »

jtwaleson wrote: post #7

Can someone in Microsoft confirm my suspicion that this thread is still going and nothing was fixed?

MovieMaker was discontinued in 2017 and replaced by ClipChamp. MS acquired ClipChamp and it was integrated into windows in 2022. So basically closed, will not fix.

Re: Bill Gates tries to install MovieMaker (2003)

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Post by Flux159 »

Even today Microsoft can't get their shit together on a decent user experience. Tried to use Azure since I needed to code sign a binary on Github. My two previous accounts setup on Azure errored out with obscure errors and there was no way to fix them. I had to create a new account just to sign up for Azure Artifact Signing (which is now waiting for Microsoft to approve - no updates in a week). I don't know how anyone figures any of this out without reading pages of documentation. I honestly believe that no one actually cares about their products or user experience at Microsoft.

Re: Bill Gates tries to install MovieMaker (2003)

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Post by MomsAVoxell »

EGreg wrote: post #19

“Someone decided to trash the one part of Windows that was usable? The file system is no longer usable. The registry is not usable. This program listing was one sane place but now it is all crapped up.” That does not sound like something Bill Gates would say…

The email reads as if parts of it were dictated, and subsequent parts of it were taken from realtime notes, i.e. a third party is noting, episodic, everything Gates did during that attempt to install MoveMaker .. and then it was refactored into a "From Bill" mail at a later point ..
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