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Modems becoming super cheap is gonna be a big problem for this, because those make it even harder to prevent such snooping.

Just imagine having to jam the devices in your own home just to stop them from profiling you.

Better pray to your deer god that modem + data contract is gonna stay more expensive that the expected value from selling more data...

We really need regulation to stop this.

Re: 216M Spy TVs – The LG Smart TV Problem [video]

#403
I managed to watch 14 minutes of the Gamer Nexus video (on my computer) before going into the living room and disconnecting the network cable, OMFG. If there's no legal consequences for LG for this I'll be surprised. I'm in Europe, not counting on the US for this, trust me.

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post #172

Okay. This is insane. First the monitor that uses a windows feature to automatically install a small helper tool with root permissions and then starts showing adds in certain regions. Now a tv that is actually actively snooping around on top of the known fingerprinting. What else is next? In the previous topic I got ridiculed for not wanting to buy LG anymore because I could use an agent to modify to strip out the of…

I would like to send vast amounts of garbage data to the LG servers. They aren’t being respectful of our bandwidth and data, we don’t need to be respectful of theirs. This also applies incentives in the correct direction. Their database of customer information becomes less valuable if there’s bad information in it. Disconnecting your TV from the internet doesn’t affect LG, feeding them bad data does.

I like this enough to actually considering buying one to get it to identify the endpoints. Maybe better to see first if we can find it in the firmware update downloads.

Re: 216M Spy TVs – The LG Smart TV Problem [video]

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post #57

This is the same behaviour as the german secret police in east germany. The difference now its for ads and by tech. All collected data are probably ai transcribed from audio to text and is fused via data fusion to serve ads. Add collaborative filtering to find similar interests between users.

this is the same behavior as the secret police in 2026 USA, the biggest customers of the ad tech companies.

https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2026/03/targeted-advertising-g...

https://www.npr.org/2026/03/25/nx-s1-5752369/ice-surveillanc...

Re: 216M Spy TVs – The LG Smart TV Problem [video]

#406

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This seems quite hyperbolic to me. Newspapers were leveraging sensationalism and attempting to capture attention by any means long long before targeted ads were a driver of revenue. I'd guess there are plenty of pre-newspaper examples as well.

newspapers didn't follow you and your friends everywhere you went to feed all your metadata back into an addiction algorithm people massively underestimate how insidious having millions of data points about a person is, these companies are literally modeling your behavior

I strongly believe the worst vices of social media would all persist if there were zero advertising.

You can see that by looking at more minor or fringe social media sites. Public "liking" is literally all it takes for people to degenerate into performativeness, sensationalism, grandstanding, misinformation, etc.

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#407

Ad Tech is a cancer that is / has destroyed society. It is responsible for almost everything that is awful today. Conflating attention for interest and rewarding sensationalism has created a giant stinking hole in our lives. It must be eradicated. Do everything in your power to destroy these companies and their immoral business practices.

This seems quite hyperbolic to me. Newspapers were leveraging sensationalism and attempting to capture attention by any means long long before targeted ads were a driver of revenue. I'd guess there are plenty of pre-newspaper examples as well.

Interestingly, there are many laws against launching precision guided missiles, despite the fact that people were throwing snowballs at each other long before missiles were invented.

Re: 216M Spy TVs – The LG Smart TV Problem [video]

#408

Ad Tech is a cancer that is / has destroyed society. It is responsible for almost everything that is awful today. Conflating attention for interest and rewarding sensationalism has created a giant stinking hole in our lives. It must be eradicated. Do everything in your power to destroy these companies and their immoral business practices.

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Re: 216M Spy TVs – The LG Smart TV Problem [video]

#409

Ad Tech is a cancer that is / has destroyed society. It is responsible for almost everything that is awful today. Conflating attention for interest and rewarding sensationalism has created a giant stinking hole in our lives. It must be eradicated. Do everything in your power to destroy these companies and their immoral business practices.

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Re: 216M Spy TVs – The LG Smart TV Problem [video]

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post #155

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> This. Why would you even connect TV to the network? I happen to have a NAS with family pictures I like to display. I can (and do) firewall that thing, but then you hit other issues like the apps you need to show pictures and movies in the first place not to install/run. I've yet to hear of a reasonable recipe to isolate and secure such connected TVs. And don't get me started on Chromecast or other Android dongles,…

Apple TV is the best one. No ads, full OS updates for a long time.

There are ads for ATV content.
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