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Smartphone makers don't bother to comply with EU repairability requirements

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Re: Smartphone makers don't bother to comply with EU repairability requirements

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Post by jgilias »

herbst wrote: post #12

Does it really matter this early? What I expect from this is rather that at least a few producers get more repair friendly so I as consumer have the choice again. (Writing this on my first phone without easily changeable battery, I've tried for very long) So I as my families tech guru can give the right signals to my family and in a few years we see the actual change happen. Slowly but steadily

It does matter, yes. Because it won’t lead to the outcome you want until someone actually gets a painful fine.

Re: Smartphone makers don't bother to comply with EU repairability requirements

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Post by WarmWash »

noir_lord wrote: post #17
KaiserPro wrote: post #4

As its the EU and regulation, its time to trott out your hobby horse. So let me trot out mine: regulation is good so long as it is backed up by even handed, robust, transparent, quick and effective sanctions. the Online safety act is a good example of a bad law, which is enforced badly. The first big test (X producing industrial quantities of minors engaging in sexual activity) was failed. Had a small company produce…

Sadly that mess had a political component, any attempt to regulate US big tech results in howls from over the Atlantic. Frankly, I'd prefer it if we just let them howl and said fuck it more but it's probably a good job I'm not making those decisions (and in honesty the picture is complex for companies that size/the politics).

Ironically the fact that the howls need to come from the other side of the Atlantic, rather than having any domestically, should tell anyone all they need to know about the situation.

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Post by herbst »

jgilias wrote: post #21
herbst wrote: post #12

Does it really matter this early? What I expect from this is rather that at least a few producers get more repair friendly so I as consumer have the choice again. (Writing this on my first phone without easily changeable battery, I've tried for very long) So I as my families tech guru can give the right signals to my family and in a few years we see the actual change happen. Slowly but steadily

It does matter, yes. Because it won’t lead to the outcome you want until someone actually gets a painful fine.

They will get fined, but it doesn't happen within just a few weeks.

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Post by flir »

nekusar wrote: post #20
KaiserPro wrote: post #4

As its the EU and regulation, its time to trott out your hobby horse. So let me trot out mine: regulation is good so long as it is backed up by even handed, robust, transparent, quick and effective sanctions. the Online safety act is a good example of a bad law, which is enforced badly. The first big test (X producing industrial quantities of minors engaging in sexual activity) was failed. Had a small company produce…

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And both are illegal.

(Depending on your local jurisdiction. But GP said "Online Safety Act" so I'm making an assumption).

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Post by pbasista »

KaiserPro wrote: post #4

As its the EU and regulation, its time to trott out your hobby horse. So let me trot out mine: regulation is good so long as it is backed up by even handed, robust, transparent, quick and effective sanctions. the Online safety act is a good example of a bad law, which is enforced badly. The first big test (X producing industrial quantities of minors engaging in sexual activity) was failed. Had a small company produce…

> X got a letter saying they should stop.

I am unfamiliar with these matters and I am also unsure what specifically you are referring to.

But in general, if big companies get away with wrongdoings by receiving a gentle slap on their fingers, figuratively speaking, it will, in my opinion, lead to no change whatsoever.

Because if there are no material consequences for wrongdoings, they probably would not care. And there are very few kinds of actually material consequences for big companies. One of them being a really hefty fine.

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Post by throwawayqqq11 »

nekusar wrote: post #20
KaiserPro wrote: post #4

As its the EU and regulation, its time to trott out your hobby horse. So let me trot out mine: regulation is good so long as it is backed up by even handed, robust, transparent, quick and effective sanctions. the Online safety act is a good example of a bad law, which is enforced badly. The first big test (X producing industrial quantities of minors engaging in sexual activity) was failed. Had a small company produce…

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You dont want to allow a market, which is why in many countries even imaginary CSAM is illegal.

Re: Smartphone makers don't bother to comply with EU repairability requirements

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Post by cbg0 »

p-e-w wrote: post #6

Why would they? The worst thing that can realistically happen is a $1-$5 billion fine a few years from now, which they only need to pay a few years after that when they have exhausted their legal remedies. That’s easy to calculate with, and almost certainly cheaper than compliance.

Fines like this always come with a legal obligation to adhere to the requirements, it's never just a cost of doing business.
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