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Ask HN: Fable hacked my piano, can I release the results?

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Re: Ask HN: Fable hacked my piano, can I release the results?

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Aside: if you want a source of high quality Piano MIDI recordings, you should check out the MAESTRO dataset: https://magenta.withgoogle.com/datasets/maestro > The dataset contains about 200 hours of paired audio and MIDI recordings from ten years of International Piano-e-Competition. The MIDI data includes key strike velocities and sustain/sostenuto/una corda pedal positions. Audio and MIDI files are aligned with ∼3…

Wow. That's some high quality archive. I have never encountered anything better. Pity the performer isn't listed. And the competition's web site is defunct.

Re: Ask HN: Fable hacked my piano, can I release the results?

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One caution regarding the suggestions to publish this anonymously: this Ask HN post has already linked the project to your existing HN account. Your public comment history contains enough self-disclosed geographic, professional, family, purchase and ownership details that identifying you would likely be fairly straightforward for a motivated investigator. I won't enumerate those details here. The AI provider may also…

I dunno why your post was dead, I vouched.

fwiw you can reach support/dang on the email on the footer if you need help w your personal account/data/on the site

Re: Ask HN: Fable hacked my piano, can I release the results?

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post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> If you live in Europe, this restriction may be considered "gatekeeping" and exempted by the Digital Markets Act. That's not how the DMA works at all, there is no concept of gatekeeping practices. Instead, the EU Commission designates companies that act as gatekeeper for some services (current list here: https://digital-markets-act.ec.europa.eu/gatekeepers-portal_... ) which then puts constraints on what they do.

But we have various exemptions that are for all the companies, no? E.g. you're free to hack and crack software to do your own backup copies.

Not a lawyer but it wouldn't be under the DMA - these rights predate the DMA by a while.

Re: Ask HN: Fable hacked my piano, can I release the results?

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If you live in the USA, the "decoy notes" may be considered an "effective technical measure" from the "Digital Millennium Copyright Act". If you live in Europe, this restriction may be considered "gatekeeping" and exempted by the Digital Markets Act. Don't bring attention to yourself by asking for permission. Publish your codec, and if the company cares about this they will send a cease and desist. If you want the wo…

It's not effective technology if it is secure via obscurity. If it fits on a shirt, you're also fine. The key here (pun intended) is to publish it and show how obvious it was to reverse engineer.

https://www.cnn.com/2000/TECH/computing/09/08/decss.shirt.id...

Re: Ask HN: Fable hacked my piano, can I release the results?

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post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How do you know this? How would you falsify this hypothesis?

You could train an LLM on a dataset that intentionally excludes certain data, and see if it is able to extrapolate outside of its dataset and come up with those excluded items independently. For example, remove all code from your training data, and then see if the model can code regardless.

Expecting to go from having seen no code to being able to code within a context window is a pretty high bar. More useful would be asking for code that does something you're pretty confident no-one has done before.

(TBH, when people claim this, I do wish there would at least be occasionally an actual pointer to something that was copied. I understand it's probably not going to be doable in all cases, but without examples it sure feels like a weak statement. In my experience the recent models are good at doing things I'm pretty sure there is not a close reference for in the training data, though for most part I wouldn't classify them as particularly difficult tasks either)

Re: Ask HN: Fable hacked my piano, can I release the results?

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If you live in the USA, the "decoy notes" may be considered an "effective technical measure" from the "Digital Millennium Copyright Act". If you live in Europe, this restriction may be considered "gatekeeping" and exempted by the Digital Markets Act. Don't bring attention to yourself by asking for permission. Publish your codec, and if the company cares about this they will send a cease and desist. If you want the wo…

> Publish your codec

Put the code on the blockchain somewhere and it will be un-deleteable.

Re: Ask HN: Fable hacked my piano, can I release the results?

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post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Worst case it'll get taken down, Eeh, worst case scenario you'll get sued as Microsoft will have no problem with handing over everything they have from your Windows installation information, GitHub accounts, NPM authentication and everything else they own today if the courts tell them to. You can't just commit crimes on the open internet without really hiding IPs and what not, and expect that to not come back to ha…

"You can't just commit crimes on the open internet " Who said it is a crime, are you a lawyer?

Please note: This is America where potential civil immigration charges can result in summary execution because poorly-trained wannabe-cop racists with guns make needless escalations. If law enforcement thinks it’s a crime, it’s a crime until the courts say otherwise.

Re: Ask HN: Fable hacked my piano, can I release the results?

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post #44

Recently had a similar, but likely more severe problem: I noticed Sol decompiled some proprietary code to re-implement some functionality for an emulation I wanted to use internally. Now its likely soiled and I have to throw it away. Doh! I asked it about legality and it went "its almost green" but when googling, reverse-enginnering like that seems very illegal. The weird thing is in this case, it could have pretty e…

> Now its likely soiled and I have to throw it away.

Could you explain why you think so?

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